People: Are you seeing this? First reviews from France!

Arkadine
MemberOvomorphMay 28, 20124383 Views157 RepliesThe first reviews from France have arrived. I will try to get translations...
http://www.reviewer.fr/breves/cinema/13441/prometheus-critiques-mitigees-apres-premiere-projection.html
May 28, 2012
Let's wait to hear from Frantz, if anyone has seen it in France -_- it'll be him.
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May 28, 2012
@Spartacus Please tell us whats it says. This one looks reliable and interesting
Review from Fantasy.fr
http://www.fantasy.fr/articles/view/20246/prometheus-la-chronique-du-film
Google translate
Fantasy.fr chronic but rarely publishes from time to time, some films that deserve some attention here just over a views. Prometheus is part of this category would it not that the film celebrates the return of Ridley Scott's science fiction, 25 years after Blade Runner and its history is connected with his first sci-fi film, the cult Alien passenger.
Alien started as a 0, the film quickly became something else as the production notes explain the feature film advertising
"The concept of PROMETHEUS began with a silhouette that was visible briefly in ALIEN, THE PASSENGER eighth, and seemed to be forgotten as soon as the anhedral which gives the film its title arose - literally - in the history. But this mysterious being, this giant creature fossilized in open-chest known as the Space Jockey - remained firmly rooted in the memory of the man who gave him life.
Ridley Scott says: "Since ALIEN, THE PASSENGER eighth, an idea had not stopped me turning in my head: what was the mystery behind this? Who was this creature? Where was she? What was its mission? What technologies it mastered its kind? These questions seemed to be an interesting springboard for ideas most fascinating yet. "
It is true that Prometheus began a few years ago as a project of prequel
ALIEN, THE PASSENGER eighth, before evolving into something else, "to a new universe," as explained by Ridley Scott. The film raises new questions and is defined by new ideas, themes that have captivated the imagination of the great director.
Ridley Scott notes: "The creative process that has shaped the development of the film has created a new mythology, magnificent, which is part of this original story. Most fans will recognize in this film strands of DNA ALIEN, THE PASSENGER eighth, but the ideas tackled by PROMETHEUS are unique, they are far reaching and sobering. PROMETHEUS was the singular story I was looking for. "
Based on this observation, Prometheus can be chronicled as a film related to the Alien mythology or as a feature film of science fiction that stands on its own.
As an independent film, Prometheus is a nice visual slap, with a certain amount of reflection and incredible sequences. However, it suffers the same defects of blockbusters, including inconsistencies in the story: A character supposed to have no problem with some gadgets orientation is lost; Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) knows a little too much. She knows how to handle all electronic devices, find secret rooms ... ; Characters, terrified 15 minutes earlier and identified clues alerting them that nothing is going where they are (more difficult to light a pile of corpses), will make mumuse with an alien creature to advance the History ...
Inconsistencies that can spoil a projection for some. What is all the more damage they could have been easily avoided. There is there one among all those paid thousands of dollars to have read the script to notice these things?
Another disappointment, Ridley Scott had promised a film as terrifying as the first Alien, while the rest of the saga had led to action. Apart from one or two disturbing scenes or anthology, Prometheus is not scary. Damage.
The film remains good enough for you who read this article go see in theaters.
Things go bad if you just connected to the first Alien: if one has not read the production notes (which will be the case 99.99% of viewers) or if one is not careful a single detail, including the name of the planet where the story takes place (which should be the case for much of the public) will attempt to relate the history and scenery of the film to those of Alien passenger. It is not necessary: Prometheus's action takes place on LV-223 and that of Alien on LV-426. These are not the same planets. Hence the apparent differences cargoes alien spacecraft that could be noted in the trailers of Prometheus.
Prometheus consists of numerous gray areas. So much so that the vessel's captain, Janek (Idris Elba), apparently struck by divine grace, tells everyone, including spectators, the nature and purpose of the place they explore. Other lack of clarity in the plot raise many questions that do not have aruaient not need a 2 or a Prometheus Prometheus Extended Edition for their responses.
Inconsistency aside, we regret that ignorance of the Weyland-Yutani Alien in regard to the possible existence of extraterrestrial creatures remains unexplained.
Finally, Prometheus does not seem to stand on its own and you end up with a hybrid film, Scott has held partly to hang up the cars with Alien, certain passages bordering the remake. It might have been better to keep the basic idea of Prometheus (scientists across the world to go on a planet they think is the birthplace of the creators of humanity) and dropping entirely the Space Jockey also tempting is the idea of exploring its history and that of his family.
In summary: Prometheus is a good sci-fiction for adults need to see at least once in the room, if only for the opening scene and a few other highlights of the film.
May 28, 2012
@Heustess:
This is the first review Spartacus was referring to. It's very public:
[url]http://www.ecranlarge.com/movie_review-read-24513-157891.php[/url]
May 28, 2012
I knew it!!! Fassbender is the mother fraking man!! His performances from that small part he had on 300 to his superb role as Magneto in X-men: First Class had me sold from the first frame of film he was in. Big things do have small beginnings
May 28, 2012
Just a reminder, which [i]could[/i] be completely irrelevant, but IMO it's worth keeping in mind:
"2001" and "Bladerunner" [i]both[/i] opened to decidely mixed reviews.
May 28, 2012
Review from Just Cinema 55/100
http://www.justcinema.net/article-critique-prometheus-de-ridley-scott-une-promesse-non-tenue-105966891.html
[Review] Prometheus Ridley Scott ... a broken promise?
We can say that it was a great film expected in 2012 ... Prometheus, the new Ridley Scott film, he returned to science fiction had us all motivated. The father of the success of "Alien" and "Blade Runner" says he had pleasure in returning to the roots of what he loved in science fiction: human!
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Synopsis: A team of explorers discovers a clue to the origin of mankind on Earth. This discovery leads them into a fascinating journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, a terrifying confrontation that will decide the future of humanity lies ahead.
It is therefore natural that this scenario is imposed Prometheus, the search for the origins of humans through aliens (bah ah yes, science fiction anyway eh). From the first images and trailer, fans shouted at Alien prequel (a prequel is a film that traces the origins of another). Ridley Scott was defending himself, he did not think that his fans see the birth of the famous Aliens and why and how. He had just accepted that the visual world was the same and indeed, the end of Prometheus launched the Alien saga.
A complex history
Between the synopsis and poster tag line "the search for our origins could lead to our demise", the film clearly announced color: we may have been created by aliens. Well ... Despite a long story a little to start, it was soon aboard the Prometheus and learn only once on board the original exploration but without great depth yet.
Initially, the entire band in outer space on the beliefs of a couple of archaeologists (played by Elizabeth Shaw Noomi Rapace and Charlie Holloway played by Logan Marshall-Green) who noticed some commonalities in various frescoes of the history. These points represent a planetary system with a sun and a planet that could harbor life apparently, and as if by chance we find in the depths of the galaxy after 2 years of sleep in box. We will not know more: or how they found these planets in the universe, or why they think they are our creators ... There will also be a story of aliens like us, the critters not nice at all, a surprise character ... And since I do not want to spoiler the story, I would not say more.
Moreover, throughout the film, it is history that will default because no angle is treated thoroughly and spring a little and say "shit, I have not get it! Who was that , who did what, that was really bad, what becomes of it? .. etc ".
The elements are not lacking, nor the action. Every 10 minutes, a new fact will be added to the scenario, creating a very confusing present. And finally, there is not much to understand. One gets the impression that the writers are parts of several ideas + the influence of Alien (as it is clearly present) and finally, not knowing what to choose, they tried to combine everything into one movie. Too bad for a film that focused on a potentially exciting story ...
Visually shared
Ridley Scott has never disappointed us in his films visually speaking. From costumes to sets through a world still very strong, he has always made us forget the green funds. And if we know that Prometheus was shot in a setting almost virtual, we can not help but take in their eyes.
3D is nice and it does not interfere. It especially helps to accentuate the depth and navigating the ship (with honors for the stage of the storm ailleurds!) But sometimes makes it a little difficult deciphering the dark decorations. And I would almost say the better sometimes, because even if the film sends the block level graph, we were very disappointed to A particular scene: the "decoration" of the control room of creators. Walls that have wanted to design a resume Alien but more like the cardboard / 80's than anything else. Even the decor of Alien ago 20 + years was most successful ...
But cons, we can not deny that it's still a nice slap what can be done at present. So honors for cinematography and visual effects!
Characters not dug enough ...
... Despite a competent cast and very promising! A reluctant crew to the mission and that does not react more than that to the discovery of extraterrestrials. It was not even a curious biologist for a penny, that does not care that can foul up Darwin's theory.
Then, the cool beauty (it's nothing to say) Meredith Vickers played by Charlize Theron, who is not used much except make decisions heartless bitch during the mission. Charlize's talent could have been pushed. Fortunately, it was David, played by the excellent Michael Fassbender, the service robot that will fuck you over miquettes the film. I do not want spoilers but fans of Ridley Scott know what happen to robots in his films ... Here, you know ;-) It is more than up and love it.
It was a challenge to take Noomi Rapace (after his success of the Swedish version of Millenium) in lead role. It is she who is doing the best with Fassbender. It would have required more frustrated, more dedicated to the doubt between beliefs (yes, we like this Catholic service) and what she discovers, but again, it's flat, we do not dig more it ... And if I venture to compare with Alien, the character is not worth a quarter of Ripley (played by Sigourney Weaver). I do not even speak the character's surprise unproductive and the captain will have a significant short while towards the end, but otherwise it barely exists.
Alien prequel or not?
I had already spoken after the press conference and my opinion has not changed. But the similarities are still striking (the sets, female central character and I advise you to stay until the end though ;-) Do not go there with a view "I'm gonna see a new Alien" because you will very disappointed, but the many nods to the saga are very nice!
The small details that could have improved the film
Clearly, you guessed it: I was disappointed. Leaving the room, we discussed among film bloggers and when we asked "so, do you thought what?" we did not know what to say. Mixed between the desire to say "shit I did not understand" or "I have a sense of unfinished business" or "it was a dung scenario is not it?". We all agree that visually it snaps, we're happy to see a SciFi Ridley Scott, but that was expected more. We wanted a story, characters, settings ... the whole treated to 200%. It was good stuff, but the bare minimum I would say ... Again, Alien aside, we're not happy with the movie itself.
It could have been raised by an amazing soundtrack: we still remember the theme music heavy and chilling Alien, or the incredible soundtrack of Gladiator (I quote these examples because it is as a director of two movies that 'we sold it on the poster), but no. The music is nice, goes well with the film, but nothing stands out.
We could have had a little more mystery. With bugs, aliens, the death of certain characters, even the last frame of late ... There too, it seems they wanted to cram everything in this film to make us understand things or show us that they had 12,000 ideas. Unfortunately, a little too kills the film.
In conclusion
As a viewer and irregular amateur movies, blockbusters like that, you'll like Prometheus. There is no doubt about that. If you watched Alien years ago and that you liked, you may also like Prometheus. If you are a fan of SciFi occasonnel, you may also like. But if you're a fan of Ridley Scott and expecting Prometheus as the promise made months ago, the disappointment may be at the rendezvous. Get ready, it's still a good movie to see, but not the masterpiece which was expected ...
May 28, 2012
Next one is a mixed review, not sure if I posted it already
http://www.cloneweb.net/critiques/critique-prometheus/
Google Translate:
Cannes just ended, we can again focus on what comes out in times in theaters and not just on the Croisette.
Arrives on Wednesday the very, very highly anticipated Prometheus, sold as a prequel to Alien, and without being in which we find Michael Fassbender (as successor to Lance Henriksen), Charlize Theron, Idris Elba and Noomi Rapace in the title role, taking So over from Sigourney Weaver.
Succession, succession? Yet Prometheus is not he supposed to tell "another story in the universe of Alien"? We have lied?
Is the film lives up to its preview? Or not ...
Prometheus - Released May 30, 2012
Directed by Ridley Scott
With Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron, Naomi Rapace
A team of explorers discovers a clue to the origin of mankind on Earth. This discovery leads them into a fascinating journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, a terrifying confrontation that will decide the future of humanity lies ahead.
Ridley Scott is a director adored but yet if you look closer, you realize he still has a career sawtooth pattern to plunge. The first feature films (The Duellists, Alien, Blade Runner) were successes, but his filmography then declined, while punctuated with flashes of genius (Gladiator, Black Hawk Down). It is therefore increasingly difficult to compare the film debut of Scott's Robin Hood unhappy.
See him return to the franchise that made him famous was not a sure bet, especially since it has sold the film as something different, a different story in the universe 'Alien prequel but no one.
The opening scene of the film is there to show us that since we will fly over landscapes reminiscent of Scotland or Ireland, without knowing where we are. We discover a humanoid size larger than normal to watch a spaceship to fly. It is certain there will not be in the dark world of Eighth Passenger, especially since it will enchainer with terrestrial discoveries explaining the Prometheus space travel to a system far removed from ours.
It's not really a spoiler to say that it is at the invitation of a group of scientific beings embarked for adventure, led by the company Weyland. Beings in question, we soon discover, strongly resemble the famous Space Jockey from Alien, the creature that Ripley and his friends discover seated at what appears to be a big telescope.
It is ultimately in the Alien universe but are not and that feeling will follow us throughout the film. Indeed, the history written by Damon Lindelof, who is also Cowboys and Invaders must and would have probably been better off staying in the world of television, will spend his time having his ass between two chairs. Prometheus is actually a prequel without being: for more than two hours, we will explain the origin of the aliens while trying not to do so.
It has two problems: the first is that the justifications are generally uninteresting in themselves but they also want obscure enough to replace a layer of mystery by another. We explain but hideout under a layer of weirdness.
The second problem is to ask why? The main interest of the first Alien is its mystery, these horrible creatures come we do not know where or why they are there. Did we really need to know how they were born? Are we not here a desire to spoil the pleasure of the viewer? As long as you make a movie in the universe, could not we focus on the Space Jockeys not do everything so that the film resembles the first installment of the franchise.
Yet this is what happens because everything, all the time, is reminiscent of Alien. We will show us different creatures that resemble either the embryo or the face-hugger, visually different but remember the small details. And one of the characters will necessarily a creature certainly different but still in the belly ... Not to mention the famous late announced as the link with Alien, what we see from the beginning unfortunately.
Passengers wanting to look like the Eighth might have been quality. Unfortunately, Lindelof is not able to hold the length. His script is laced with inconsistencies and it kills in the bud every good idea or every time the hero began to get interesting, since each of them die like shit without having time to enjoy it.
It is clearly not capable of writing characters rather than just as the crew of the Prometheus is cardboard. Some scenes of the characters discover that they had never seen before (though it is in a kind of camera) and even the main characters have no real interest. One wonders what is Charlize Theron. Remains Noomi Rapace who comes out honorably, and Michael Fassbender and Idris Elba perfect as usual.
Fortunately for the viewer, Ridley Scott is not a penguin. If the film suffers the same defects as Robin Hood, the man can hold a camera and some scenes are enjoyable to watch, sometimes involved. 3D is very friendly and the special effects are without the slightest mistake.
But that's not enough to save the sinking of Prometheus. Our only hope to see Scott return to a franchise that made him famous and do it right now based on the result of Blade Runner, fortunately without Lindelof and his bad pen.
David, the character of Michael Fassbender in the film, said that "every great story has a small beginning." This is unfortunately the case here and the door open to a second aspect is not there to reassure us.
May 28, 2012
Spartacus: Hero for saving us from babbelfish.
Shane: Failure of the Ontario education system. 10 years of French and nothing to show for it.
May 28, 2012
No one "got" 2001 when it came out, I'm hedging on this with these reviews. Also keep in mind that the diff in French vs English, maybe it does not quite "translate".
Before its launch reviewers on Star Wars was just as panned, only after it exploded that the critics came on board.
QUICK EDIT: I'm not the only one here that remembers 2001, Star Wars, Alien, Bladerunner even Jaws. Not one of them received "good press" prior to distribution. And today, we can pre-order our "Take Home" copy of films, the box office time of film is a way different dynamic, running much shorter.
Message: Don't take a review either good or bad, make your own judgement.
Nuff' Said...
May 28, 2012
Like I said in another thread, those expecting clear answers and the connection to Alien will be disappointed. I will be honest though, I think I will wait till reviews that make sense come out to really formulate what I should expect. I want one review that isn't vague and is actually well written to rear its head so I can have something to sink my teeth into.
May 28, 2012
Seems like the reviewer of this last review that Arkadine posted is one of those critics that wants everything too simple...By what I understood, he stated that the movie's main issue was it's excessive complexity.
That's why I'm not so worry...however, he said that the critters were not nice, that something to fear...we need more details!
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
May 28, 2012
So far, it doesn't look too good for Prometheus since Lindelof may have crapped all over the story. If this guy did with Prometheus the same things he did with Lost (i.e. make the excuse that he likes things "open ended" to cover up the fact that he sucks at writing satisfying conclusions for any story arc he is presented with) then even Scott's amazing direction and the fantastic visuals may not be able to save it. Say what you want about Blade Runner's visuals, I personally thought the story was what really made it a masterpiece.
May 28, 2012
dont be worried people, be like me, be prepared for a dissapointment, then you cant lose!
May 28, 2012
I was very nervous about reading anything in this post in case the reviews were going to be bad. Such a relief to see that the general consensus seems to be very positive. Do any of the reviews mention the last 8 minutes?
May 28, 2012
Either they were not shown the last 8 minutes -or- as posted earlier, they simply do not get the "nods" that Riddley has put in this film.
May 28, 2012
I love it. I really have to agree with the first and positive review for one simple reason. He was very articulate and explained exactly what was good and bad about the film, while backing it up. The second review just says that the film is good and that the actors were not used properly. That kind of explanation is not enough for me. Go with the first review people.
May 28, 2012
I think it is somewhat silly to expect the reviewers to comment on the last eight minutes. What reviewers ever write something to the extent of, "oh and in the last ten or so minutes this happens."
May 28, 2012
I've read some of those reviews and honestly I don't know what to think. Some of them are positive and some of them not, I know that everyone has its own opinion and movie taste, but still it frightens me a bit.
I've heard most french critics call A:R the best of the whole Alien franchise. Is it true? If so, then they're pretty much dumb and then maybe we've got nothing to be afraid of?
The first thing I need to do, is to start avoiding forums and similar sites. Trolls will keep coming from now and I don't want my mood to be ruined.