The Prometheus' creatures' life cycle + creatures' drawings!

Blood
MemberOvomorphMay 30, 20124278 Views52 RepliesI've done a shitty drawing showing the creatures lifecyle and development as they appear in the movie. Huge spoilers ahead obviously.
***SPOILERS***
Just check the image.
[img]http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/993/1338390444825.jpg[/img]
I can answer any question if necessary.
Cheers
May 30, 2012
Behold!! My latest creation!!
[img]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6209/1338419921392.jpg[/img]
May 30, 2012
O_O it's got cancer!
Because I'm bad at scrolling I drew this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/pq2Qq.png[/img]
url = http://i.imgur.com/pq2Qq.png
While reading your description, not being aware that you drew the thing immediately afterwards. :/
Still not sure what you mean by "double gums," but that sure does look like those inner jaw things xenos have.
Edit: I also drew cuddles from the same knowledge base.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lrW9Z.png[/img]
url = http://i.imgur.com/lrW9Z.png
May 30, 2012
@Blood wrote,
"They obviously knew that the goo could create a xenomorph, but I don't see why it takes so much steps to get there. It feels like its creation was an accident of Shaw sleeping with Holloway, but at the same time there's the statue/mural..."
Here's an idea: What if the thing spawned from the Last Engineer + Cuddles (Shaw's squiddy baby) is not the first xenomorph/proto-xeno, but a reiteration of a xeno created long ago?
We know the Engineers visited Earth, directed life on Earth, and were invested in human life in particular. Perhaps they abducted individual humans, brought them to their homeworld or another of their planetoids, experimented with them + the goo + Engineer DNA to arrive at... the xenomorph we're so familiar with from Alien and its sequels?
Not during the events of Prometheus (because if Ridley Scott says there's no direct link and the derelict is long-dead, I believe him), but long before, in what would be prehistoric human times (but perhaps recent memory to the long-lived Engineers).
I'm not one of those who's expecting answers to the xeno's origins (I LOVE it that Prometheus isn't the same old, same old). But the possibility that it came from us, at least in part, is disturbing.
May 30, 2012
OMG! This is the most interesting thread I've seen all day, the best spoiler ever...thanks @Blood
And by the way all the drawings are great, thank you all...
May 30, 2012
The xeno's origins are already known, as they have been since the comics tread this ground a long time ago: Space Jockies made them. HOW was never addressed until now, because it's easy to just say "they genetically engineer stuff that looks like Giger paintings" and be on your way.
Stuff that we haven't seen before are the process of creating a xeno and, you know, the [i]other[/i] things SJ's can make.
The monster in Prometheus certainly doesn't have to be both, either one is enough to carry a movie with or without SJ's, but it's sort of expected since it's hard to shake "alien prequel." More importantly, this coda creature wouldn't be so recognizably a proto-alien if it wasn't implying a relation to classic xenos.
I like your idea though, abiogenesis, like it was initially an accident, but then the jockies liked the result and came up with a process/outright engineered something based on this other creature.
It also brings up the possibility that the first xenomorph was created on Earth. Fun fact: in the newest avp game (with Lance Hendrikson, so as far as I'm concerned it's part of the movie timeline :P) we see the first xeno ceremonially killed by a predator. It's a human-spawned alien. Hmmm... Of course I know Ridley would never intend to make that connection, but it is there if you want to make it, and I do.
Another thing, too, is if this critter only shows up in the coda, and is born on LV-223, it certainly doesn't seem directly connected to the derelict on LV-426 at all. Will it factor in the sequel? If it does, we can be assured it won't be directly related (ala jockey alien) since Ridley said the sequel will be an even larger tangent. If it dies alone on LV-223, it seems like they're purposefully avoiding answering how to get from A to B, which seems suspicious, and probably means that proto guy can make ordinary xenos somehow.
MAYBE the xenomorph is a result of a similar process... but involving a species more common in SJ-space than humans. Maybe if a SJ is contaminated with the goo and then reproduces, it causes an even weirder "cuddles," which then can implant xenos.
Or maybe I'm really excited about this new monster. :3
May 31, 2012
Well of course Ripley your drawing skills are better than mine. The gums are just like that, but with another gum coming out,and not just jaws coming out, I means it's pink and full of nerves too.
I tried to draw the form of its head in the upper right part. It's really smooth, there's just a small bump where a nose would be.
And that yellow sac is intentional. My bf told me (I forced him to come the second time) that's a yolk sac. It sometimes stays attached when an embryo comes out and nurishes him for several days until he can eat. That's not really the case here since the proto has it in one image and loses it just after. That sac is yellow/green and clearly pulsating (a beat is heard) as if there's a heart somewhere.
May 31, 2012
Your drawing of cuddles is good too, but with less tentacles and no teeth when he's young. He's disgusting but doesn't appear really dangerous.
[img]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4508/1338469302926.jpg[/img]
May 31, 2012
blurg. Site is silly. I've noticed threads don't get bumped when there's a new message, making it kinda hard to tell when there's something new.
That drawing is great! I can see the little... uh... thing... that facehuggers have in the center of that Elder Thing looking monstrosity (yo dawg, I heard you like tentacles that branch off into five smaller tentacles, so we branched off your five tentacles into five tentacles while we branched those tentacles off into... you get the idea, tentacles on tentacles).
http://www.elfwood.com/art/i/t/itosaithwebb/concept__elder_thing_by_king_rastel.jpg
4 meters, huh? Looked way bigger than the space jockey, but... I suppose they shrunk down the jockey, didn't they?
May 31, 2012
Wow that thing looks nasty! Where is it from?
Yeah, the engineer is smaller since he can walk in the corridors so he's maybe 3 meters high. Poor guy gets mouth raped by an octopus with a vagina-penis with teeth and tendrils lol
May 31, 2012
That's the aforementioned Elder Thing, the race of scientific aliens that came from some planet in the Ursa Major constellation to Antarctica 4 billion years ago from "At the Mountains of Madness."
Ubbo-Sathla is already on Earth, so they take some of its tissue and use it to create Shoggoths, amorphous black blob monsters that can form any organ needed at will to build their awesome cities. Accidentally, one of the prototypes escapes, and bacteria/viruses/all other Earthlings are born. They are eventually killed off entirely on Earth by Shoggoths (who were being controlled bu Cthulhu, but that's another story).
The coolest part about these guys was their description. Maybe you've heard that myth about Lovecraft not describing his monsters? Well, in MoM he goes crazy and spends something like 3 pages describing every last minute detail of these things. It's incredible. It's so good you almost forget the guy was a racist.
...and that's why Del Torro said what he said about MoM being redundant now.
May 31, 2012
Yeah well, that would look great in a movie.
This thread is soon going to be on second page, so basically dead. Too bad, I wanted to talk more about this.
June 10, 2012
We only saw one lineage of goo turn into a proto alien thing. Do you think the rest of the parallel lineages would result in something similar? I initially thought the worm cobra alien was a type of face hugger. However, didn't it somehow infest the Geologist and make him crazy super man.
How or when do the Engineers learn about the Alien. They either found/made the goo to eventually produce them or they experienced this before. Their architecture is very similar to the excreated walls Aliens make. Would this be a byproduct of direct engineering or some genetic memory of the Engineer transformed to an Alien.
Do you think humans are a critical part of the link? We do have the same dna as the engineer, just different traits are expressed and are more pronounced.
Is infected sperm the key to getting a Alien? Is there why there are no Engineer women around? Assuming they are not LOTR dwarf women... completely indistinguishable from men to non-dwarfs.
Would all goo creatures be manageable by the Engineers since they are huge and ripped to shreds? The alien being the ultimate BA???