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MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 10:00 PMLast night I posted Roger Ebert's AP first release of his review (at http://www.masslive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/bc-ebert-prometheus-adv7-6-5/6de25f5f093c4c4aa93759eaaf953108 ) some immature and rude folk doubted it, that it was fake, etc., but here it is for mature discussion whether people like it or night, written exactly as I posted it from AP last night, in his website (as one remarked in disbelief): http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120606/REVIEWS/120609989
Prometheus
BY ROGER EBERT / June 6, 2012
Cast & Credits
Elizabeth Noomi Rapace
David Michael Fassbender
Charlie Logan Marshall-Green
Meredith Charlize Theron
Janek Idris Elba
20th Century-Fox presents a film directed by Ridley Scott. Written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. Running time: 124 minutes. Rated R (for sci-fi violence including some intense images, and brief language).
Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" is a magnificent science-fiction film, all the more intriguing because it raises questions about the origin of human life and doesn't have the answers. It's in the classic tradition of golden age sci-fi, echoing Scott's "Alien" (1979), but creating a world of its own. I'm a pushover for material like this; it's a seamless blend of story, special effects and pitch-perfect casting, filmed in sane, effective 3-D that doesn't distract.
A scene at the outset shows a world with apparently only one animal being, a pale humanoid who stalks a high ridge surrounded by spectacular scenery. This person eats something that causes painful vomiting and rapid body decay. The vomit is followed into flowing water, where it seems to morph into living cellular structures. Where is this place? Is it Earth? Who is the being, and why is it alone and naked? Is the scene a visualization of the theory that life first arrived on Earth from outer space?
Cut to a human spaceship in the year 2093, qualifying "Prometheus" for a flash-forward spanning more years than the opening of "2001." The trillion-dollar ship Prometheus is en route to a distant world, which seems pointed to in prehistoric cave paintings. There's reason to believe human life may have originated there. It's an Earth-sized moon orbiting a giant planet, and at first it seems a disappointment: no growing things, unbreathable atmosphere. But the crew notices straight lines on the surface, and as we all know, nature makes no straight lines.
The lines lead to a vast dome or pyramid, and the film will mostly take place inside the dome and the Prometheus. But let's put the plot on hold and introduce two of the crew members: Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) wears a cross around her neck and believes life ultimately had a divine origin. Her boyfriend, Charlie Holloway (Logan Marshall-Green), accuses her, a scientist, of dismissing centuries of Darwinism. What they find in the pyramid leaves the question open. Alien humanoids, in suspended animation, incredibly have DNA that's a perfect match for our own. So they could somehow have brought life to Earth — but why? And from this moon where they slumber inside their pyramid, or from another planet around a distant star? Why did they stop here? What are they waiting for?
The film then develops horror scenes comparable to "Alien," although it depends more on action and weaponry than that film's use of shadows and silence. For me, the most spellbinding scenes involve the crew members exploring the passages and caverns inside the pyramid, obviously unvisited in aeons, and their experiences with some of the hibernating alien beings. One of the key members of this crew is David (Michael Fassbender), an android, who knows or can figure out more or less everything, even alien languages, and is sort of a walking, talking, utterly fearless HAL 9000.
The alien race in "Prometheus" shares a body characteristic that reminds me of "Alien" and countless films since: Elements can detach from them and enter into other bodies as hostile parasites. This leads to an astonishing sequence in which Elizabeth, alone on the ship, discovers she is pregnant with an alien Something and somehow finds the will to control a robot surgery device that removes it. Her later showdown with a waning oxygen supply shows equal resourcefulness; Noomi Rapace ("The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo") continues here the tradition of awesome feminine strength begun by Sigourney Weaver in "Alien."
Another strong woman is on board, Meredith Vickers (Charlize Theron), a representative of the corporation that privately financed the Prometheus. She treats the others like her employees, which they are, and believes she always speaks for the company's wishes. The ship's captain, Janek (Idris Elba), makes no pretensions of scientific expertise like the others but is a no-nonsense working pilot. Janek has the most interesting evolution, from the irreverent hipster in his first scenes into a man with the ability to intuit the truth about what he's seeing.
The most tantalizing element is how it plays with the role of these DNA twins. Did they create life on Earth? The possibility of two identical DNAs as a coincidence is unthinkable. Charlie digs at Elizabeth, suggesting their existence disproves her beliefs. Her obvious response: Where did they come from? This puzzle is embedded in an adventure film that has staggering visuals, expert horror, mind-challenging ideas and enough unanswered questions to prime the inevitable sequel.
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Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 10:32 PM[img]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/222/6/8/i_was_wrong_by_misterjamez-d465clr.jpg[/img]

Chris
AdminEngineerJun-06-2012 10:36 PMAlright Drake, let's use words from now on eh? ; ) Pictures are fun and all, but detract a little from the discussion. Thanks!
Hyped for: Alien: Romulus | Badlands (Predator 6) | Cloverfield 4

FREEZE!
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 10:36 PMthank you for posting the link, very nice review, glad he liked it! Can't wait to see it!
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Mr.Yutani (Detective Hudson)
MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 10:39 PMEbert is one of my favorite critics...thanks for the link

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 11:13 PMI paid a second visit to the cinema tonight and I'm in kinder mood towards the film, as I watched it more as a stand alone than I was first able to (it's such a philosophical departure from the main franchise).
I still think it's got plot holes all over it and flawed.
much as I often read Eberts reviews, I think he's overly kind, in my opinion, because there's no way that "[i]The film then develops horror scenes comparable to "Alien," although it depends more on action and weaponry than that film's use of shadows and silence.[/i] "
Some of the most brightly lit horror scenes I can remember and not that good.
Milburn and Fifield die very , very, [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7057]stupidly.[/url]
Zombie fifield (a zombie in the Alien universe - puke) kills three people in something that belongs in Resident Evil
And the Space Jockey beats Weyland, Dr. Forde and Jackson to death with his bare hands, in a brightly lit room, without saying a word.
Vicker's death wouldn't have been out of place in a Road Runner cartoon, and the rest of the crew sacrifice themselves in a kamikaze attack.
That is in no way comparable to Alien. And the other horror attack that is similar, is Shaw, armed with an axe, on the lifeboat, using one monster to kill the space jockey - good move. But none of the tension and jump out of your seat stuff of Alien.
[i]" For me, the most spellbinding scenes involve the crew members exploring the passages and caverns inside the pyramid, obviously unvisited in aeons, and their experiences with some of the hibernating alien beings. "
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Scenes with great imagery and terrible terrible dialogue and awful bloopers about Milburn and Fifield. The holographic sequences were very good, and inventive way of telling the story.
I also think he lets the script off lightly for its over the top pushing of the mythology and 'big ideas' which are not subtly done. I mean, the dream sequence about questions of god, afterlife, and then the devotion to the cross, and the 'miracle pregnancy' of Shaw who was barren... creating a monster, to fight the gods. Constant flat banter about losing faith, or breaking free of gods. I felt it unbalanced the movie by laying that on far too thickly.
Also confusing is that he writes as if its an unresolved question about whether the Space Jockeys created life here. Hello? The whole opening scene is about telling us exactly that, showing the Space Jockey DNA flowing through a river on a barren landscape. And if that wasn't subtle enough for you, the second scene opens with a standing rock almost the same shape as the saucer ship as it flew away, just to suggest the link from prehistory to the 21st Century.
PS> Ebert's wrong, it was Milburn, not Holloway who accused Shaw of denying Darwin.

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 11:14 PMI'd still be interested in a sequel, hopefully with better writers who know how to show a plot, rather than have the characters read it out as if it were a book chapter, which happens too often in Prometheus.

POOPMETHEUS
MemberOvomorphJun-06-2012 11:45 PMOnly thing I can imagine is these critics are being payed off to give positive reviews... Or else all he cares about are pretty CGI effects.

markweatherill
MemberOvomorphJun-07-2012 12:29 AMI think that if film critics are going to describe the plot of a film, they need to ensure the specific points they mention [i]are actually correct[/i] or they will look ridiculous.
Mr Ebert must realise that people who have actually seen the film are going to read his review.
I know he's a highly regarded film critic but this reads like it was dashed off to meet a deadline!
(Or perhaps a first draft not intended for publication, or perhaps a fake after all!)

visualizer
MemberOvomorphJun-07-2012 3:02 AMRoger Ebert is usually very sharp and meticulous, but he doesn´t seem to go into much detail with this preview. I usually agree with him on most movies, but this time I find it hard to even take the review seriously (I kind of had the same problem with the movie).
@Hadley´s Hope "Vicker's death wouldn't have been out of place in a Road Runner cartoon" LOL!

BioShock
MemberOvomorphJun-07-2012 6:39 PMEbert, RS and Fox are working on a huge conspiracy to pay off all the well regarded film critics to make positive reviews.
Brilliant!

neilrieck
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 5:02 PMI don't always agree with Roger Ebert except when rates a sci-fi picture then we are usually 99% in agreement. I happened to see Prometheus on opening weekend and every reviewer was giving it 1 or 2 stars out of 4. Meanwhile, Roger Ebert had just given it 10 out of 10 on one site and 4 out of 4 on another: [url=http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120606/REVIEWS/120609989]http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120606/REVIEWS/120609989[/url]

PrivateHudson
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 9:19 PMI usually agree with Ebert's sci-fi reviews too. He was, of course, correct on this review as well! :-)

The Truth
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 10:50 PMLOL @ people here who are bashing Eberts opinion. Its like if people are not allowed to enjoy the movie. "If you enjoy this film you are wrong!" Lmao
So much butthurt.

RSAND
MemberOvomorphJun-28-2012 11:22 AMI mentioned this last week. Ebert is a very tough critic that knows film.
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