piece by abandoned piece...jus for the hell of it

Hi Guys. obviously there's been a lotta speculation out there about this Film. I thought i'd throw my hat in there as a reason of making something out of what i was given....which as i've said in my own review (and don't want/need to repeat) left me overall disappointed. i wanted to start this thread for people to discuss and involve themselves in the issues of the movie that I or we saw and try to give it a plausible story to join those dots of distracted and abandoned plot/narrative....which was the main bulk of the unfolding film...though not the overall plot..which i felt permeated this film all to regularly. it's just a bit of fun....because ultimately we don't know... but i'll be happy to take and discuss any points however out here, as long as their based in the reality or execution of this film....and not made up theories that the film NEVER lauded too...as (and it is a minority) some on this site have taken at least one point made up a fabricated tangent just to prove their point and forgot all other elements of the film. not gonna name names....and not what i want to get into. i also won't (really) be going into the big major universal questions regarding creation, life, god, no god...i any great detail...becasue they are there all the way through the film from beginning to end and are meant to have bigger evaluations and question marks hanging above them...which i don't have a problem with, happy to think about, and i'll gladly follow into a sequel....and which ultimately are the overall plot of the film....no i wanna talk about the blatant narrative or where we are in the film that left us a bit high and dry...not about where we're going or have gone....at least not yet..... A quick example of what i mean...would be that I've read 2 great ideas (of many) that maybe as obvious as each other depending on your view point....one being that in the opening scene the 'sacrificial' engineer intentionally de-constructs and INTENTIONALLY creates life on earth....where the other idea states that maybe the creation of life on earth was an ACCIDENT...and that this sacrificial engineer...was to kill himself as a punishment...and his Dna accidentally fused with elements on earth and created life.....wether right or wrong both are plausible and both are based on what was presented in the film though from differing points of thought....so having said that here we go. here's my 2 cents.... For Me.... I believe the Engineer in the beginning of the film...IS firmly situated on EARTH some believe he's on LV223....despite the obvious contradictions about how our ancestors from many different cultures and civilisations across thousands of miles and generations knew about him/them....they also over look the fact that the humans are here on earth...and share the dna with them (how ever you feel about this its the film)...and if it did take place on LV223 then humans would not have been created the bad engineer wouldn't need to come back to earth as we're not there...again this is not what the film is about and presented as but i'm digressing. Sacrificial engineer i believe is on earth...there's nothing no official review or comment to state otherwise. that he is either intentionally designed (cloned or otherwise) as a seeding entity of pure combustable energy and cellular mass... as in that his purpose maybe his majesty or lineage...to bring life to these planets...and this type of black goo...is the match to the flame as it where...while HIS creators are in the Mothership....and yes maybe he's designed in their image...(for all the blade runners out there)...i believe the theory behind this is called panspermia...or a VARIATION of it for purposes of film. Life begins...its there on the screen...DNA Breaking down ....the Fusing....recombining with other elements ....growing at a cellular level and then multiplying.... The cave paintings, for those who don't know are based in the idea of the ancient Alien theory....where real life Ancient cultures and civilisations such as the mayans, sumaerian and hopi indian who, amongst many others are separated by thousands of miles and generations, scribed similar images and messages on walls of their caves or temples seemingly explaining the visitations of otherworldly beings....though this theory or reality (as in real life these types of cave paintings exist).... has again been altered and embellished on for the purposes of this film....ok with me so far... jumping forward...too LV223. (as it's just a space hop for a few minutes) and my real reason for writing....this is where the film ultimately fell down for me...not in it's execution it was great up to and through this time...and then went know where and abandoned all it had shown and built up...with intensity...so here's my attempt to join the dots...just for the hell of it... i'd like to think that...when the team start to investigate ...the first real thing that we see is the panicked engineers running away from something..and into the chamber containing the ampules of goo. i Do not think that there was an outbreak in the sense of an air born contamination and infection...firstly i doubt germs could penetrate a suit built for intergalactic space travel...and secondly you can't out run that kinda thing....seems a bit futile... i believe it may have been some kind of nested (controlled and intended maybe,? maybe not) outbreak where the outbreak was some kind of nesting evolving type face hugger creatures or variants of this...that chased the engineers back down the tunnel so obviously they couldn't leave...and that the engineers ran quickly into the first room they found with an open chamber door to escape....that the last one didn't make through in time...hence the decapitation... I say this because later on...we see a pile of Engineer bodies piled up in front of another chamber door looking like they've been scraping the walls on top of each other trying to GET IN... they're blatantly full of chest holes...some with head holes...though wether thats related in regards to a head hugger type variant...who knows...could just be injuries ...but they're there none the less....and these engineers are either, other ones who didn't make it inside that particular chamber OR are the same ones who made it into 'OUR' chamber and where caught out when they left...as there's no bodies in 'OUR' chamber...but for the decapitated one. and the awoken engineer later on in the film is the last survivor from this outbreak and is the one who made it back safe...wether he closed the door on his 'Pals' or just made it back safe with a genuine effort of escape...is anyones guess...but it kinda makes sense when you think that in 'Alien' on LV426 Scott himself has said the derelict was a cargo ship taking the 'Eggs' somewhere maybe to destroy?...maybe not. but that SJ had something burst out of his chest too...so this cycle, early xeno, face hugger thing or otherwise has been around a while...its on the mural in the chamber and is obviously something they can't completely control...if it gets out..so it's possible they 'our prometheus engineers' could have been taking whatever version of these eggs or creature somewhere...maybe earth?... so that's my take on that part. one things for sure for such omnipotent beings they where running scared from something. For me it would have been great to find out what...and this is my interpretation...of something i felt we the audience should have been involved in especially because were about 70 mins into the movie and they've built up to it and it was scary and intense and engrossing......but everything starts (for me0 to become unravelled and we get distracted by storms and infections and random killings that take away from this ....with all the omnipotent, universal, creation, life ,god etc...questions and alluded notes of overall plot still hanging in the back ground and indeed fuelling the reasons why shaw leaves the lane for answers....the second half of this movie for me is clear cut and more than a tad predictable....so to come to a close very soon...i just want to say that i also believe as there's evidence in the movie.... That Shaw was just a vessel....and did not produce her own egg...as she was infertile...she was infected by mutated/contaminated DNA from Holloway...it grew of its own volition.... John Hurt didn't need any of HIS own eggs to give 'birth' to an Alien and obviously couldn't produce any cause he's a man...like so many victims...it grew after being placed inside him... and lastly i believe theres differing types of goo maybe thousands or millions who knows...we deal with 2 in this film *but possibly 3*...one that helps spawn life...and one that destroys or mutates its host and the 3rd is a bit of a mystery....i refer first to the sacrificial engineer in the beginning who spawns life...secondly to Fyfields mutation...to the black stuff....(no not guinness but i've had a few mutations on that stuff myself :)) and then there's holloways infection...where this goo looks different, doesn't react to atmospheric change like fyfields does as it doesn't alter in anyway when david puts it on his finger in the open atmosphere of the ship. and is indeed contained in a different way...inside glasslike modules...with clear water type substance that the small strands of black glob..float in....holloway displays similar type symptoms to that of the engineer but also some mutagenic type of fyfields...and of course holloway ultimately passes on a growing beast to Shaw that the other two show no signs of doing...and then he is killed meh!...so we'll never know.......but ultimately this leaves me with a feeling that there are Creation type engineers who love and want to create life and destroyer type engineers...who burned them selves playing with fire (xeno DNA) maybe trying to overthrow the creation engineers....as it seems there maybe warring factions between these engineer species. I think thats it...for now please fell free to respond...though please try and keep it i the realms of the film...wether its right there or in the bigger picture i look forward to hearing ideas...and at the end of the day it just makes me feel better about the film...that i'm still disappointed about.....if i've missed anything or left something out...then thats just it i've missed it...or it made sense to me or didn't think it was a big enough point in the film (for me) to mention...Peace All. PS i wager @westy will show up and give 3 or 4 lines of rubbish and abuse... and disappear again. ;)