Alien Universe Movie Androids

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Maybe the account will not be deleted so that this display can stay for all to see.

Seriously MrHreviews, 

One does not understand "I say good day sir!", does one.

#1 - Check my comment in question in this thread closely, of which was brought to your attention via Twitter by AvP Galaxy's own Corporal Hicks (seriously Hicks, why) - I never said Screenrant didn't source AvP Galaxy, I said John Campea didn't, he as did I only mentioned Blu-ray.com, the original "source" of this rumor.

#2 - You attacked alien-covenant.com and my article both in your video and here in this very thread before I had uttered a single word in your direction.

#3 - You have outed us for doing exactly what you did in your video, bring to the attention of alien fans that the trending "news" was a rumor and as such should be taken with, and I quote my article "a huge dosage of salt".

#4 - Rather than apologize for your error in labeling us for click bait and lazy reporting you have continued to act as though you have done no wrong and called uncle the moment you received my opinion of your conduct in this topic in kind. As Harrigan said in Predator 2 "the door swings both ways"; cant take it, don't dish it out. because of your error and your failure to recognize as such, you have lost a viewer today H, because as I said right off the bat "This saddens me."

Now then, let’s just take a closer look at that third paragraph which reveals all. I think this is the one

“Now AVP Galaxy passes along what may be inside dirt on the Alien franchise.”

I’d say this is all about context and the inclusion of those three little words that mean so much “…what may be…”

Of course AVP is cited, but not in a bad way. It’s just passing on some info and what could be so bad about that?

Now having the inclusion of those three little words "..what may be..." should tell us all something really important. That really important thing is freedom of choice. The choice for the viewer/reader to make up their own mind. That is what any good forum is about, and that is freedom of choice and the freedom to accept or deny what is being laid out.

Lol I'm not deleting any of this Mr H., as your responses continue to solidify our points. You clearly have some insecurities in need of attention. "Fucking delete me" is not a civil response, more like a childish attempt to elicit a reaction. We're known for allowing free speech here, we do not censor comments we don't agree with, but if you fire off slander (which accusing us of being clickbait is in a sense) towards us, you best be prepared to defend yourself as to why when we call you out on it.

Your attitude is very evident of someone who has piggy backed on popular websites and created videos which gained some traction with fans on YouTube leading to you thinking you somehow have stature and influence on this topic. You speak in a condescending manner and as Gavin stated, you do specifically call us out over MANY other sites reporting on this rumor. Your attack on us along with your defense and responses here is evidence of your egotistical character trait. Us pointing that out is not an attack on you personally but merely an observation. You should take it as constructive criticism and use it to improve upon yourself.

Also, if you "don't give a crap about this website" you would have stopped replying, nor would you have posted in the first place, let alone continue to double post and rant now, using curse words and getting frantic trying to get your account deleted. If it didn't bug you, you would log off... it takes 2 seconds to close a tab. Your need to validate your actions shows you feel you have something to prove.

All that you have proven however is that your goal is to profit off of other people's work, whether it's to regurgitate it, report on it yourself or cause a fuss about it.

You're right, you did not need to make a video about this rumor, especially if you knew it was blatantly false. Why fuel the fire? You also did not need to personally target us for spreading the information as we are one of many who did. You also neglected the fact that we clearly labeled the article as rumor and thus, your arguments regarding it being purposely misled information is horribly inaccurate. You also singled out AvP Galaxy and criticized us for not linking them when the rumor did not originate from their site (that's not how this works btw). I did not even pen the article and Gavin obviously did not check their site or get the news first from there anyways.

I don't check Galaxy as often as i used to because some of us have real lives to live and other jobs to work, but when I do if there is news I've missed I happily give credit where it's due. Please check our Predator 4 site you will see I have sourced them numerous times.

Bottom line, this whole fuss was completely pointless. You called us out for whatever reason, you then felt the need to come HERE and attempt to sway our own opinion of ourselves after taking notice of your rather unprofessional and inaccurate "report". That in itself makes no sense. But, it's clear you watch these forums very closely and that's fine, but don't attempt to throw shit our way and not expect to be called out for it.

Drama queens only cause problems and to be honest, I'm well past that stage of internet life. We will report on news, we will report on rumors, we will report on interviews and any little update that comes our way because as a fan site that's what we do. As long as we cite our sources (sources being WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM lol) and clearly label what the articles are about you really can not fault us. Any attempt to do so will be taken as petty, unprofessional and inaccurate. Welcome to internet journalism.

Feel free to log off though, if you wish to disconnect. If that's too much, you just close the tab instead, it's that little "x" in the top right of your browser in case you weren't sure.

Take care now. Thanks for stopping by.

Seems Mr. H didn't feel confident to stand by his words and deleted his comments. Unfortunate.

Batchpool - It's not important at all who cited who. The video in question was made for us, for fans - not against us. Sites like react365 are against us because they create fake news trying to mislead us. These fake news agencies are very dangerous since there are several people who can't distinguish between the rumour and the totally fake either.

@ Ati

Back in November there was a heated dialogue between Andrew Neill of the BBC and Afshin Rattansi from RT which was based around a discussion on fake news and sources. The stance from Andrew Neill was that it is of highest importance who cited who, with Afshin Rattansi taking an alternative viewpoint. What it appears to come down to is censorship. Should we censor fake news or include it in our overall view of things?  I do believe we should all be able to access information that allows each and every single one of us to make an informed choice and to educate ourselves in knowing who we can rely on for accurate information. By the same token, being aware of false news, and knowing the sources by being able to find out for ourselves false news providers, should act to strengthen our trust in those who are truthful and reliable.

“These fake news agencies are very dangerous since there are several people who can't distinguish between the rumour and the totally fake either.”

I totally agree with what you are saying here, and certainly there is a problem in that there are those who cannot distinguish between the rumour and the fake.

I do not have any problem with someone wanting to make videos for the fans that can guide them into looking deeply into the source of any material to check out its validity. That is just good advice. The video did actually raise an interesting point in that how can something be cancelled if it has not even been greenlit, which I found to be quite a fair point for discussion. So from that point I am not just going to dismiss what can be a valid opinion.

Batchpool - You are agreed.

Perhaps you remember the weeks after the release of Covenant - I started some threads to show how easy it is to manipulate others' opinions trying to convey the message that one should not believe every line of a forum article.

I think the biggest problem is that there are insider people in the background in most cases.

Crikey ;)

I seemed to have missed the Party....

I think anything that has no 100% solid proof has to always be taken as Rumor i have seen this site referenced on others as Clickbait... and i dont consider this so, many sites like this have their own debates and own rumors, and even though some dont agree with each other  WALTERMORPH-GATE all rumors should be considered as such and indeed placed as such.. which is what i did with the rumors i had, which i always said take with grain of salt and the only way to Confirm would be if any Concept from 2014 or more so the Pre Logan drafts came to light... until then a rumor is a rumor.

I will add regarding the AC sequel...

It is very likely from the moment Logan and Harper had been brought in to work on the Plot for Alien Covenant that the movie would lend to sequels, they set up sequels that would eventually arrive at ALIEN.

So they would have a great idea and discussed where the Franchise would proceed as far as brainstorming the dots that connect to Alien which is why RS had said it would need at least 2 more movies before we get to ALIEN, this is because they had a idea where they are going and Logan would have been working on the sequel at the time of prior to AC Release.

RS then confirmed they are nearly done with the Story, and hinted that the movie would have been scheduled for a July 2018 Shoot Date (approx)  However its logical that the performance and reception of Alien Covenant would have made RS/Logan and FOX have to carefully evaluate the approach they was taking.

This did not mean the movie was on Hold, it would likely be a case of trying to look at why AC did not do as well as expected and consider if changes needed to be made with their plans, as surely FOX would not want to push ahead a Sequel that sets up a 3rd Alien Prequel that connects to Alien but then finds the sequel does not do well, leaving them with a unfinished Story with that Final Piece of the Jigsaw to Alien  to yet be worked on.

I would not read to much into those other rumors, they could be true or maybe not, just because some stuff got Auctioned is no big deal to say a Movie is Canceled... we dont know what was Auctioned if anything.

I would not think the AC sequel had got to far into Pre-Production as of September, not in regarding to working on Props...  and we dont know what the next movie Plot would have been about, but there is a chance that re-visiting Davids Workshop was not needed, and so such Props would not be needed.

A lot of the Story from AC to Alien can be by-passed much like how the 10 years between Prometheus and Alien Covenant was, so certain things was not needed to be covered.   So a lot depends on if they was to show us much set on Planet 4 in the next 1-2 movies, and besides it happens when Sets are Sold off or Dismantled...

Much like the Juggernaught Sets from Prometheus, instead of keeping them Stored because eventually there would be a sequel... they just Re-Create the Sets as needed.

BigDave - In other words, the rumour or the fake rumour in question does not mean anything.

I think until RS or FOX/Disney say otherwise we just cant be sure..

I think its likely that FOX had put the Project on Hold, thats for sure, if you was in their position after the disappointment of AC you would want to try and figure out what went wrong, release the DVD/Blu-ray with Extras and see how the DVD/Blu-ray sales do and responses to the Extras.

Then you can gauge what needs to be worked on..

If you took this route however of Postpone the Project as far as Practical side, and so still allow for the Plot/Story Phase to be worked on and evolved and wait for the results/feedback of DVD/Blu-ray sales, then by this time surely FOX would have foreknowledge of any Take Over, which would mean they would certainly not take any action forwards regarding a Sequel.

The interesting part is the Auctioning off of what ever they had in storage, if we knew what this was, this could reveal more about the Plans and indeed indicate how CANCELED or not so the Project was.

Exactly BigDave! The Disney acquisition has changed everything...

"This did not mean the movie was on Hold, it would likely be a case of trying to look at why AC did not do as well as expected and consider if changes needed to be made with their plans, as surely FOX would not want to push ahead a Sequel that sets up a 3rd Alien Prequel that connects to Alien but then finds the sequel does not do well..."

It seems that the post went OT very fast. They have gotten the androids right this far, even Call was Alright.

Why AC did not do very well or more like why I did not enjoy it very much:

Mostly bad human characters
Too much focus on the robots
Too little about the Engineers
A hint that David created the Xeno, which is crap

They got to get the human characters right and I also want to see more of the Engineers and they got to get that right. Reduce the role of the robots because it is boring, Ridley might like it but I do not. Ash in Alien, Bishop (Aliens) and David in Prometheus were all alright but they made David worse in Alien Covenant. I liked the difference between David and Walter in AC but that lost some of its shine in Alien Covenant since they sacrificed (or to be blunt: did not give a shit about) the human characters and favored the robots.

The Engineers was a good idea but it was badly executed in Prometheus but please try to get that right because it could be interesting. Another thing is: how many prequels do they got to make until we get to the original movie? I am not sure that they want to do very many seeing how Prometheus and AC did. Maybe they will do two more at a maximum.