Good News for the Alien Universe - Scott Wants To Make Another Blade Runner Sequel
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MemberPraetorianJan-07-2018 1:17 PM'Don't mark Blade Runner 2049 as the end of the franchise just yet. Ridley Scott has plans for another Blade Runner sequel.'
'Sir Ridley Scott has confirmed that he still has a few ideas that he could turn into another film rattling around in his mind.'
Scott: "I think there is another story. I've got another one ready to evolve and be developed, so there is certainly one to be done for sure."
Considering that Blade Runner 2049 was not a box office favourite last year, Ridley Scott's words can be viewed as good news for the Alien Covenant sequel as well.
Ati
MemberPraetorianJan-07-2018 1:55 PM'Ridley Scott had a big problem with Blade Runner 2049 and admits he's partially to blame:'
"The big idea comes from Blade Runner," he said. "[Replicant creator] Tyrell is a trillionaire, maybe 5 to 10 percent of his business is AI. Like God, he has created perfect beings that, for all intents and purposes, there is no telling the difference from humans. Then he says, 'You know what? I'm going to create an AI. I'll have a male and female, they will not know that they're both AIs, I'll have them meet each other, they will fall in love, they will consummate, and they will have a child'. That's the first film. The second film is, what happens to the baby?"
"I have to be careful what I say. It was f**king way too long. F**k me! And most of that script's mine."
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 3:46 PMWow it sounds like RS he wants to ruin Blade Runner too? I am sorry Ridley Scott, but the original Blade Runner WAS NOT about two AIs trying to "have a baby". Blade Runner is my favorite movie of all time, and not even RS can reshape that film into something different from what it really is.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 3:56 PMThese are probably the most distasteful and disgraceful statements to ever come from Ridley Scott's mouth. Trying to throw shade at Denis Villeneuve and taking credit for the screenplay... I am sorry but this has to be said: Ridley Scott is (or was until he let his business persona take over the artist) a man of taste, not a man of ideas. His craft equals poetry in motion, he can build cinematic universes you can almost step into, you get trasported, entranced. But his movies are generally as good as the script they are based on. As of late, he has been pretty delusional, and these statements are further proof of that.
dk
MemberTrilobiteJan-07-2018 4:02 PMMaybe Luke should step in.
It would be nice to see and enjoy a movie- then wonder and discuss and that's it. It is tiresome that a mindset exists to keep making sequels and then prequels when the idea well runs dry.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 4:11 PMdk No this is Ridley (unconciously or not) trying to prevent "Blade Runner: 2049" from achieving cult status. Maybe if he produces a rushed sequel, delivered "on budget and on time", the previous one would not be remembered as such. And he makes this damaging statemenst just as "Blade Runner: 2049" is being released on Blu ray????????
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 4:19 PMThese are some excerpts Ati did not include
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/blade-runner-2049-sequel-ridley-scott-plans-1201914259/
(“It’s slow. It’s slow. Long. Too long. I would have taken out half an hour,” Scott told Al Arabiya), he seems to be eager to return to the series.
When asked about continuing the saga, Scott told Digital Spy, “I hope so. I think there is another story. I’ve got another one ready to evolve and be developed, so there is certainly one to be done for sure.”
Read More:Ridley Scott Knows Why ‘Blade Runner 2049’ Bombed at the Box Office: ‘It’s Slow. Long. Too Long’
Scott recently spoke with Vulture about how he helped to shape the script for “Blade Runner 2049.”
“Most of that script’s mine,” he said. “I sit with writers for an inordinate amount of time and I will not take credit, because it means I’ve got to sit there with a tape recorder while we talk. I can’t do that to a good writer. But I have to, because to prove I’m part of the actual process, I have to then have an endless amount [of proof], and I can’t be bothered.”
dk
MemberTrilobiteJan-07-2018 4:21 PMjoylitt Well, RS says a lot of things. Frankly, I am unsure how much longer he can keep going and might consider hand things off to his son.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 4:23 PMSo is he actually complaining he did not get credit as a writer? A famous director like him would need a "tape recorder" to prove he wrote it too? He is being so petty. I am truly brokenhearted...
dk
MemberTrilobiteJan-07-2018 4:25 PMThat is strange. Complaints like that from some one of that stature sound petty to me.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 4:30 PMAnd a a master of slow build tension and morose filmaking declaring he would "cut half an hour" to a visual masterpiece obviously made as a tribute to that style. Does he not remember how it feels to be told stuff like that? I imagine lots of executives telling him the exact same thing about "Conquest Of Paradise"
Timmy the ultramorph
MemberChestbursterJan-07-2018 6:47 PMI think this is proof that ridley neads to step down from directing the alien prequels. I had supported him and actually enjoyed covenant a lot but now he seams to just try to make money. He should remain an executive producer for the films( he dose have a good buisness eye) but I think that a younger more passionate director should take over like doug limen(edge of tomorrow) , matt reaves(dawn and war for the planet of the apes plus cloverfield) or guillermo del toro.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteJan-07-2018 8:12 PMSomeone once said "A king has his reign and then he dies It's inevitable."
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-07-2018 9:34 PMI am so amazed at Ridleys reasoning: On one hand, the very divisive "Alien Covenant" underperformed because the audience was not interested in seeing more of the xenomorph (the audience's fault), not because the movie was poorly edited with zero suspense, lack of character development, the scares didn't work and the sets sucked. On the other hand, the universally acclaimed "Blade Runner: 2049" underperformed because it was so f*cking long and so f*cking slow (the director's fault; clearly the audience wants to see more of Blade Runner in the Ridley Scott style whatever that may be nowadays)
ignorantGuy
MemberChestbursterJan-07-2018 10:34 PMWell, the most idiotic component of BR49 (that Tyrell made Replicants that could reproduce and live a normal life span, then why lie to Roy, why setup an experiment in which you die and can't even confirm that they can reproduce? ) is his idea... and that is the most concerning for me.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-08-2018 12:01 AMred0guy I can live with that as long as both movies are somehow self-contained in my own head. But to say the first Blade Runner was about two AIs who wanted to make a baby is a long stretch. Replicants are not AIs and the first Blade Runner was all about ambiguity. Soon enough RS will be claiming he gave Philip K. Dick the idea to write "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
ignorantGuy
MemberChestbursterJan-08-2018 12:21 AMHe hasn't even read that book, but we might expect ...
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-08-2018 3:19 AMRidley Scott is a man who throws a lot of the ideas, he basically comes up with a Broad synopsis and ideas and then someone else goes and takes these ideas into a draft and then they evolve from there.
I have not seen BR2049 yet, but its definitely a movie i will be getting soon, i have only heard positive things about the movie, but then only a selective audience would be into it, much like a direct Prometheus 2 would have been. So for me it sounded like the kind of movie i would be interested in and i do think the Franchise has potential to not be limited to just TWO movies.
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Ati
MemberPraetorianJan-08-2018 9:37 AMBigDave - Blade Runner 2049 is a beautiful movie but there are some not so important and visually not so interesting scenes in it which should have been cut. :/
joylitt
MemberNeomorphJan-08-2018 2:38 PMAti WOW you are demanding to watch outakes of some other trash that didn't make into Alien Covenant final cut but you say Blade Rubber 2049 has unimportant and visually uninteresting parts that should have been cut. You have impeccable taste, I have to say.
Any random passage of Blade Runner 2049 is infinitely more visually complex and interesting than the whole Alien Covenant. Take the cinematography alone: one movie has Roger Deakins, the other has some dude using a crappy blue filter during the entire movie. Ridley is just jelous.
Ati
MemberPraetorianJan-09-2018 9:42 AMjoylitt - Your comments contain false pieces of information - but we are not surprised at all, of course. Your fingers are controlled again by your hatred.
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 8:33 AMLet him do so if that is his what he wants to do. His interest is with the robots so I am not surprised that he wants to do another Blade Runner movie. It would not surprise me if it will flop like the last one did. Frankly speaking I will not watch it, it is on my boycott list if it will ever be shown because he made AC about an effing robot. Movie critics can say what ever they want, it gets no interest from me.
Don’t let Scott write otherwise we will get crap like David made the Alien. Let him direct since he is good at the visual thing but keep him far away from the story.
ali81
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 8:51 AMthe plot of BR2049 was way ott imo. a human and a replicant mustering up the compatible genetic material to produce a sprog of their own?? cmon, some common sense here please. but the movie on its own was good I thought. good performances and decent character building with amazing scenery. but it seems many people can see past the idiotic idea of robots giving birth enough for the film to be nominated for awards. if he wants to do more Blade Runner sequels then he will. I think his interests suit Blade Runner better than it does Alien at this time. I wouldn't shed a tear if he states hes not going to do another Alien film but with his fascination for AI, BR is more down his street for future films and time to let someone else have a bash at the Alien prequel series.
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:02 AMRobots giving birth, how is that possible? Some sci-fi ideas are interesting but they got to have an answer that makes sense even though it could be a bit far fetched. Yup he seems more interested in things like Bladerunner, let him play with that but don't turn the Alien franchise into BR because they are two different things.
ali81
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:03 AMpersonally I don't see how it is any good news for the alien franchise that he wants to do another BR film. I just don't get the point of the thread tbh. don't get the connection as all it means is he has so many ideas for AI but cant fit them all into one franchise so hes gna use them both. alien suffers imo.
ali81
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:07 AMtotally agree thoughts, he can make a separate BR spin off but don't use the alien franchise to do it. he wants something different for the alien franchise and I can actually understand his point. but he gave us something different in Prometheus. he gave us the black goo and the engineers yet he shits on the engineers and makes the goo so inconsistent people r scratching theirs heads about it and now the prequels have that BR spin off feel to it. he cant complain if he is going to go down this path and alien fans bash him for it.
ignorantGuy
MemberChestbursterJan-11-2018 9:09 AMBoth of them are replicants (Deckard and Rachael)... made pretty clear by the Gaff visit.
Replicants are not robots... they are pretty much engineered humans and the right question is if you want to have a "product line" how would giving birth make sense, as by birth the new replicant is not guaranteed to have the desired traits.
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:13 AMAli81: I don't know either, maybe a lot of the ideas that he has for another Alien movie are so crappy so it would be better if he stayed away from it and focus on the Bladerrunner thing, that is how I read the headline or how I would put it even though that is probably not what the content of the article says (LOL!) The black goo is interesting more of that.
"he cant complain if he is going to go down this path and alien fans bash him for it."
I agree
ali81
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:13 AMmust have missed the gaff visit redguy, refresh my memory plz?
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-11-2018 9:15 AMRed0Guy: OK, I get it. I do not know that much about Bladerunner other than that it is a lot about AI.
ignorantGuy
MemberChestbursterJan-11-2018 9:27 AMIn the scene where K visits Gaff at the retirement home, the latter says about Deckard that he is retired (in both Hungarian and English, to be clear for the audience) meaning he is a dead replicant. To accentuate he also tells about Deckard's eye problem (in the first movie that single shot in which Deckard has that glowing thing in his eye making him replicant).
If this is does not convince you, ok....nowhere in the movie it is stated clearly, however.