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BigDave

I would gladly take an alternative sequel to Prometheus, but that will never happen.

Big Dave:

Sure maybe some would like to see an expanded universe with the Alien that focuses on androids but leave it to those people. I am not interested and it is not what I watch alien movies for but a comic book or something would be fine, not my cup of tea though as they say. Let it be a part of the total story but I would refuse to have a movie being totally about AI or even 60% of it, I am simply not interested. All those alien movies that you mention, OK so they might be in the background but they were not about AI. They were never about Ash or Bishop let's say or even the Xeno, the focus was on the human element.

We find out that there are various types of Synthetics, even Synthetics Creating Synthetics and Wars/Conflicts between Synthetics...”

I have never thought about that and honestly I don't care. I realized the difference between Call, Ash, and Bishop though but still to me it was never about artificial intelligence/robots.

“In such a Future when Synthetic AI advanced and forms their own separate Cults, Factions and begin Sub-Creating you can only imagine the Horrors that follow, where we have a World of Terminator AI vs Matrix AI... fighting for control... Which does not Bold well for Mankind.”

That is an interesting idea but it is nothing that I think would be an interesting alien movie or something that I would watch. Leave that to the terminator movies and similar things because it fits better there.

“... indeed why RS felt AI was more Dangerous.”

Then let him do a movie about that, just don't use the alien franchise for it. I don't want to watch a movie like that in the alien universe.

“What many people dont realize with Prometheus is its the same kind of Philosophy.”

What ever might be the case but David was better in it and it also has Elba. Unfortunately most characters were bad.

“The story of Mankind Creating Androids or Replicants, who then want to be more than just AI, who see themselves as being treated as equal to Mankind, and then Superior and then latter Sub-creating themselves.  THIS kind of Arc is something likely that did not start with Humans, we was likely not the First Sub-Creation, and so this could also go above and beyond even the Engineers, who knows how many Layers of Creation/Sub-Creation are above Mankind...“

OK, but I don't want that in an alien movie, that is not why I watch it.

“... nope the Franchise was showing us that David now wishes to Sub-Create...”

I am sure that it is interesting to some but I don't care. Shift the focus to something else, I am not interested in an AI story.

“A Fascinating Plot and one RS appears he wishes to look at....”

To some but don't use the alien universe for that, I watch it for the monsters and interesting human characters. I am less interested in the artificial intelligence kind of thing.

“… but fans think its going to a David One Man Show...”

This was almost what AC was and a reason why it was mostly boring. If they would not have liked it to be a AI show they should have had less focus on David and Walter and they should also have had better human characters.

“But for many the ALIEN Franchise is just about Queens, Eggs and Ripley.”

To me it is about people that get into situations that they are not prepared to handle mentally or as far as their weapons are concerned. It has never been about robots or even the Xeno if you ask me, this is why they got to think about the human characters first and the enemy second no matter if it is a robot or a Xeno related monster. Also this is why I don't freak out when there is no Ripley since it is bigger than her. Both AC and Prometheus had the wrong kind of priority if you ask me.

The humans need a more interesting enemy than David, he is cooked.

Gavin:

The fact that the Xeno was reduced in its role in AC was bad when you add the other flaws of it, but to me it is not the main problem with Alien Covenant. OK, so you say that it was one of the reasons but yeah. My main problem is that the human characters were weak and that there was too much focus on the robots (David and Walter) even though I think that Fassbender did a good job in portraying David and Walter. There was no balance really as far as how much time they spent on things and how they did that.

Sure, keep the Xeno and related monsters as the main enemy but keep the focus on well-made human characters that we can care for. We got to sympathize with them when they get scared and things go to shit. Unfortunately Oram was the only human that was fleshed out in Alien Covenant if you think about it. What did we get to know about the rest? Almost nothing as far as I know.

Ask yourself these simple questions. What were their character traits? Why did they agree to go on that mission? What were their goals/dreams? We never got to know about that except for in some Internet material, and that sucks.

I read some about Haubrich and that she got her breakthrough role in AC but what was so special about that? What did we learn about her as a character? Nothing as far as I know so if that role got her famous then I guess that there is not much that is required to become famous nowadays. Maybe she did her best with what she got but to me the character was not well written or well executed onscreen as with most of the characters unfortunatly.

"Scotts well-publicized feelings towards the Xenomorph are reason enough that he should not make another Alien movie."

Hmm, I guess so but who would direct it? I would not mind new monsters because that is what is one good part of the prequels this far but they don't treat the human characters very well, they are secondary to the robot thing. They should change the focus to well-made human characters not this robot garbage.

I agree to an extent that it was not an alien movie but it had Xeno connection so I consider it to be so even though it was maybe not a pure Xeno movie it at least tried to explore the origins of it. The Engineers look like the SJ to an extent so I have easier to accept them as being tied to the Xeno rather than having it being created by David.

I Moon Girl:

"If someone would make a movie to fuse Blade Runner and Alien franchises..."

Eh, no (LOL!) The closest that they have come to that is AC and much of that aspect to mix those two was totally boring.

"He just needs some confidence and success from a successful Alien movie..."

That will probably not happen as long as he is insisting on making them into movies about David and robots. I am not interested in watching a robot movie from Scott since that theme and how he handled it in AC did not make me more interested in it, to say the least.

I think Blomkamp is young and hungry, and it is a Dog Eats Dog World.... while he would have respect for Ridley Scott, Blomkamp's release of those Concepts are to Re-ignite his Alien 5 Project, he is a MASSIVE ALIENS Fan, and a HUGE Miss Weaver Fan.   You can bet he is disappointed he could not have made his ALIEN 5 i think he knows there is a potential to make $$$$ from the Massive ALIENS Fanboys, and you cant blame him for wanting to Tease more of his Project now Disney OWN FOX and in hindsight of the Disappointment that Alien Covenant was.

The BIGGEST thing to look at now would be DISNEY, they are going to look at what they think its MARKETABLE and what can make some MONEY from Merchandise and Toys and so a more ALIEN Flick like Blomkamps idea would be more up their Street....

I think Disney would also think Blomkamp would be willing to change/add things that Disney would want, as Blomkamp would just be so GLAD to be given a Chance... so Disney could feel RS could be a bit more Stubborn to deal with.   I think a DECIDING Factor could be WHEN/WHAT James Cameron has to say, if he came out in Support of Blomkamps Alien 5 and even said he would like to work with him on the Project, i think Disney would be more likely to BACK a Project by those TWO.

I WILL NOW... Look at some Options as far as a ALIEN movie where we could bring in Miss Weaver or Mr Biehn.

Is ALIEN Isolation Canon?  This is a good thing to debate, but its a Game as so we cant take it as 100% Canon, but we need to remember that AMANDA RIPLEY does exist....  She  had passed away while Ripley was Floating through Space for 50 years.

This is the Official Image we have as 100% Canon to what Amanda was supposed to look like, and she does look a lot like her MOTHER and so this means we could have a ALIEN movie set after ALIEN but prior to ALIENS where Miss Weaver could play Amanda and apply some make up etc to make her appear a bit different.   They could give us a Plot set between 2137 when Alien Isolation had taken place, and 2177 when she had passed away.    Amanda Ripley had passed away Aged 65

And so we could do a Movie that is a Sequel to ALIEN Isolation, where the Company Once again obtain a Xenomorph or even Obtain the Derelict and have Amanda become involved to try and Prevent the Company from Exploiting the Xenomorph...   This could be set in the year 2157 and cover the set up of Hadleys Hope, as far as the Agenda behind it.  Which means Miss Weaver would have to play someone in their mid 40's so this may not work...  But then they could have it set in the year 2167 or up to 10 years latter

Where we could see a Plot that reveals the Sinister Agenda of the Company, would bring in a old Amanda Ripley, and either END or set up for a sequel with the Death of Amanda and Cover up the Company has made about the History of Amanda to Ripley.   A movie that would also acknowledge the events of Alien Isolation.

The other alternative could be to not use Miss Weaver but bring back Michael Biehn as he would be cheaper, and bring some Nostalgia, and give him a Character of either being the Father of Hicks, the Brother of Hicks, or even the Son of Hicks...   which ever you choose he would play a Late 50's or early 60's Man.  Depending on what connection he has to Hicks, would give us the Time-Frame a Movie is set, and explore what role he could play, he could be a Scientist, a Pilot, or a Company Man, but something that would allow him to be connected to a Movie that would have a reason to involve Xenomorphs... maybe he wants to investigate what happened to Hicks etc.

I dont think doing any of these where we introduce Biehn and Weaver back in the same movie to both play Relations to Hicks and Ripley would work... but going with ONE of them could..   Then Blomkamps Alien 5 could work, i just think IF it is a bit of a HIT we would see sequels and sequels and then if this is a Sucsess, i FEAR Disney would then Re-Boot  i.e offer a Alternative Prequel Universe, where down the line for masses of Fans Alien 3, Alien R, Prometheus and Alien Covenant SIMPLY never HAPPENED.

Honestly I don't care that much about any of them. Ridley's movie would probably be some David crap unless some change is miraculously done which could happen but I doubt it and Blomkamp's would be like another Ripley movie, something that they should have stopped after Alien 3. Ignoring it is a big reason for me to not want Blomkamp's movie since Alien 3 is my favorite in the franchise and a good conclusion to the Ripley saga despite what Sigourney might say. Maybe it is time to let both Alien and Star Wars die (franchises where the recent movie in respective franchise was a failure). This is unfortunate that I got to say it since I like a lot of things in the franchises but they are not doing very well at the moment as far as quality is concerned. Of course they can be saved but then some drastic changes got to be done.

Blomkamp's movie would probably repeat a lot of things (Ripley, Xenos, guns, marines or something close to it etcetera). Some people might like that repetition but I think that it is time to move forward but keep a closer connection to the Xeno and get characters that we care for. Let me add that having Xenos don't make a movie good, we have AC and AR to prove that. The mental image of a Ripley in her 80's with a power-loader for retired people makes me LMAO.

Scott had an interesting idea about the Engineers but got it totally wrong when he went on the AI track. He has some interesting ideas but he doesn't seem to be able to write scripts. To me AC is almost at the same level as AR which I am sorry to say but that is how I look at it.

I don't care for another David movie and Ripley is over. The Engineers are interesting but they got to get them right and I also like the idea of the black goo. No way, I will not accept that David created the Xeno, that is so lame so I don't know what to say other than maybe F that.

The Xeno should have a bigger connection to the Engineers since they look more like the SJ compared to David. Unfortunately I guess that it will be bad as long as they let Scott affect the story.

IRaptus is right about the Deacon as a fan-service but I liked it since it made Prometheus having a clearer connection to the other Alien movies. The Neomorph could be interesting, I think that could be better than the Xeno which we have seen 100 times anyways. One thing that the prequels have done right this far is the new monsters but unfortunately the bad things have a bigger impact on me than the good parts (lame characters and too much about the robots). When important parts are handled in a bad way then the less important things even though they are more and handled better become less interesting so the movie falls apart.

More of the Engineers, less of David please. He had a huge role in Alien Covenant so to reduce his role from that level wouldn't be too difficult. Keep him in the background but let him have an important part of the story if possible but don't feature him in almost every scene.

Michelle is right in her three point list and yes both Prometheus and AC have weak characters so they made the same mistake again.

Perhaps if they would have had better Xeno connections in Prometheus they wouldn't have needed to do that David thing.

Joylitt: He didn't mention anything about an interesting story of characters either. It seemed to be mostly about the money. Maybe he mentioned that but that they didn't print it in the article. What's the point of coming under budget if the story is crap? Who would be interested in watching it then?

Michelle: It wasn't satisfying at all, it was about robots and a mad robot that wants to rule the galaxy sort of. To me it was just another disappointing Alien movie like AVP and AR. Only Oram was written alright among the humans. Yeah the Xeno was only thrown in there because the studio eventually told him to do so. Scott only cared about the robots but I don't care about them. Keep the robots in the background and focus on getting well-written human characters that carry the story for the audience, that would make it interesting. Frankly speaking the direction that the franchise is taking now is shit. My reason for not watching BR 2049 was that it was:

1. Too long (about 2,5 – 3 hours I believe?)
2. About androids and I got so tired of that after watching AC so I thought “well if that is the case then F it, I won't support that movie”
3. A boring topic combined with a run-time that is too long is hardly a recipe for a movie that is a hit so I can see why it flopped. Like I said before I hope that Scott will learn something from it and from AC as well about giving too much space to the androids but he seems too stubborn. If the next movie will be an AI movie disguised as an alien movie, well there are always other ones that I can watch.

Nope, keep it about the human psyche or else I won't bother to watch it.

I will now Tackle Ridley Scott...

I think we cant leave the Franchise in Limbo, they have to carry on with what happens after Alien Covenant, this does not mean we have to directly have a Sequel, it could BY-PASS a 10-15 year period after Alien Covenant, it could even Show us the AFTERMATH and Show that DAVID does not Create the Original Xenomorph, but when looking at how David Re-Created his own Version we have more clues to show us maybe what happened to the Derelict/Space Jockey.

What i mean is we CANT leave it as it is... where we have to ponder, OK so somehow Davids Creation gets Evolved and ends up on LV-426 or Ponder, OK i guess with no more prequels we cant Guarantee David created the Xenomorph from ALIEN   nope.... THEY HAVE TO give us a movie set prior to ALIEN that shows the Outcome of Davids Trip with the Covenant Ship and then provide us with enough Clues to either, SHOW/ALLOW us to Determine if Davids Creation becomes the Cargo on the Derelict or NOT

Ridley Scotts comments about Star Wars the Last Jedi do not HELP his situation because Disney could see this as a sign of RS being Egotistical and being a Obstacle to any Plans/Changes that Disney may have...  RS is basically saying HE WANTS TO MAKE HIS MOVIES the Way he wants and wont give TWO Hoots what Disney want.

Ridley Scott in the same Interview has shown how he feels he can get Movies Shot Fast.. and i feel here lies a Problem that we have seen in his Movies with the odd lapse that effects certain things due to simply RUSHING something...  taking a Quick Route...  One of these for Example was the Engineers in Prometheus not appearing as the 10ft beings intended.  And maybe attributing to the look of the Planet 4 Engineers.

So i worry RS has shot himself in the FOOT a bit... and with the Craze that we seem to get from Fanboys regarding Blomkamps Alien 5 i think its more likely we could see a ALIEN 5 with Ripley and Queens and i bet if Cameron works on the Project too, it would attract the Fans in masses and potentially make Disney a decent Return.

Before  reply to other comments, i can reflect on my RANT lol

To be fair with Blomkamp its hard to say how good is idea would be, there is not much Original about it, because its basically looking like   a COMPANY get its hands on a Engineers Ship (maybe the DERELICT) the Ship either has some different and similar Cargo or they experiment on the Cargo to give us a slightly different Xenomorph (which is a bit DIFFERENT) then looks like RIPLEY and HICKS return to SAVE the Day

It would be the same Tropes as we have seen in ALIENS and will be a Fanboy Fan Service, and while the idea of her MERGING with the SPACE JOCKEY Suit is something a bit more ORIGINAL i think this will only be used to basically REPLACE the POWERLOADER from Aliens in a Space Jockey Ripley VS Xenomorph Queen Finally.

This does not mean that the Movie would be bad, just the Plot is not too Original, but if we look at Aliens what have we got?   Ripley is rescued floating in Space 50+ years after the Events of Alien and is informed the Company have had a Colony on LV-426 that they lost contact with, Ripley and Marines go to the Colony and find only ONE Survivor and a Load of Xenomorphs and Queens.

Looking at the Plot like that, does not tell the Full Story that actually makes a Good Popcorn Action Flick, Executed very well, Aliens is one of the best Action Flicks you can see.

My Problem with a ALIEN 5 is apart from a Variant of Xenomorph and Space Jockey Tech, what we are looking at is not to different to ALIEN Resurrection.  And also i am not sure we should be MESSING with CANON, while it could give us a Alternative Sequel to Aliens and it could work... ONCE and especially with DISNEY they offer a Ret-con to a Aliens Sequel, its a case of where do they STOP?  Once we Open that PANDORA'S BOX and offer some Fans a Alternative Sequel to ALIENS what happens if DISNEY think they can then offer ALTERNATIVE PREQUELS

My other Concern is Miss Weaver, as it appears Blomkamps Alien 5 did not directly replace Alien 3 at all, and there was NO Ripley...  until he discussed it with Miss Weaver, you can be sure SHE would want a BIG say in how her Character is Portrayed, and No doubt would ask for Quite a Large Pay Cheque  it concerned me when she mentioned that she felt Ripleys Ending was not done well in Alien 3 and how she deserved a Happy Ending, despite being the ONE to ask for her Character to be KILLED off in a Alien 3

And so this is the Concern, DISNEY will notice this movie could please FANBOYS and make $$$$ and in Disney Tradition could turn this into a very PG13 Popcorn Flick thats all about RIPLEY and Happy Endings. Thus i think we would get a DISNEY version of a ALIEN Resurrection rather than something more Serious like ALIEN and ALIEN 3

IF Blomkamps Movie is made and it makes a very good $$$$ Return then you can bet we will see a ALIEN 6 and ALIEN 7 etc  would Ripley Pass the Torch?

it would be more interesting to see what Blomkamp had in mind before he discussed it with Miss Weaver!

Give us a Movie set after Alien 3 where the Company or another Company go back to LV-426 and Unearth the Derelict, conduct Experiments and give us 1-2 more ALIENY movies that DONT effect Canon, but ultimately at the End would explain why the USM corp in Alien Resurrection have decided to Clone Ripley as the only Source of the Xenomorph.

Happy New Years!

The room lights up immediately (above) upon Michael Bishop's arrival during the Bishop APs review of the connection to the Company archives. Michael Bishop takes a seat beyond the two Bishop APs, closer to the holographic screens displaying the newly declassified material related to his task at hand.

Still shots from the film are seen below.

Waking the Engineer on LV-223 (above).

Bloomkamp's concept art is just fine to me except for the queen pic. The queen looks good but the palm tree, ferns and footbridge look out of place- not alien-y at all.

Ati - I agree with concept art comment. At first I liked it because I like everything alien but then I thought about it and I didn’t like any of it. Juggernaut was too small in scale Ripley and Hicks will be too old ( just as actors alone ) and queen alien looks like she’s running  similar to alien versus predator movies. In those movies I always thought the queen was just a little bit to agile.  I definitely enjoyed the queen in aliens movement better when it was a real life model and it looked more like  Kareem Abdul Jabbar -lanky but very athletic and actually real not a computer.   The only concept art I really liked was the new pic of the alien in the ductwork.  All of these movies need more / deeper connection with the characters including aliens in the ductwork. 

What I don’t get is everyone having a go at Blomkamp’s approach to the film/it’s story and how it would interact with 3 and AR.  Literally no-one aside from the people who worked on it know ANYTHING about it - it’s not like the 25 page draft has ever been leaked!!!!

:DDD

A new one:

Ati, I don't think it was intended, but after you mentioned it, I could actually see Sir Ridley cutting Blomkamp's head off with it!

Is that a lasersword in Ridley's hand? :)

ScorpioStar - Ha, thanks! :) Such a beautiful start for the new year!

Why can't we enjoy more movies from more directors?

I like Fincher's works very much. It would be fantastic to see his own Alien movie.

You're always welcome, Ati :)

IRaptus - They have so much money! They could give everything... Anything!

However, I should admit I do not like the concept art shared by Blomkamp. I don't like it at all.

ScorpioStar - Nice! :)

Meanwhile, in Disneyland...

No Bush logic here since I am not from the US, my being outside the usual box is far elsewhere, red0guy.

daliens

And where is your counter-petition to that?

daliens

ScorpioStar

Don't use George W Bush logic on me. I don't want to see Aliens 2 neither Resident Fassbender.

I knew Scott would have benn the producer (until may at least) not Cameron, and I will require a link to what  you say.

And if Blomkamp will ignore Fincher's work, well, Fincher won't mind as he DISOWNED Alien 3.

Blomkampk wants to ignore Fincher's work, by the way...

Red0guy... don't you read the news?

Who's the so called producer for Blomkamp's "Alien5"?

Oh, you just read the headlines, but not the industry news... Got it.

red0guy

Ridley Scott said he wants no aliens and no horror for the next film. So no bloodbath.

Here is a link for you if you support Blomkamp:

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/neill-blomkamp-for-alien5

daliens

Everything that does not end in a bloodbath and is not nihilistic is puerile? I don't think he can bring anything new to the table but neither does Sir Scott with his infatuation with Fassbender, and nothing new will be explained about the engineers, they will only fight David and that's it.

ScorpioStar

You do realize however that Cameron movies make a lot of money and Scott's prequels suffer from diminishing returns. "Blomkamp is a Cameron turned younger ... and are together", so this a conspiracy now? And the story of Alien 3 has nothing to do with Fincher and he even disowns that movie.

But as many people stated above, it might be a good idea if Sir Ridley stepped aside and let the clowns do what they do best: be the clowns they are, Disney branded, while the rest of us sing, "It's the end of the world as we know it!"

As I am a Sir Ridley person, I'll stick to my guns. If I am to blame my Sir, it would only be because he left enough road to a certain James Cameron to come with his Terminator Alien Style and spoil the whole thing with a useless bug hunt.

David Fincher tried to fix things up, but then "Boo-hoo! He killed them!!! Where are my beloved Ripley/Hicks/Newt?" sort of thing.

Blomkamp is a Cameron turned younger, both of them are predictable - and are together, for Cameron is a Disney favorite. And, guess what! Now their dreams will come true, for Disney is in charge and the guys at Disney LOVE family predictable dreams...

red0guy

Ridley Scott said the engineers will return,  Daniels and Tennessee will live to see Origae 6. Davis is in control of the Covenant with 2 facehugger embryos. I would really want to know what happens next. I am not at all interested in Blomkamp's puerile story.

ScorpioStar

Why don't blame Scott himself for not sticking to that ending where the Xenomorph kills Ripley and contacts the Company? If commitment to Ripley, Hicks, newt is bad why is not to David (or any other Android played by Fassbender)?

I don't like Aliens (I like the shots from the extend version with the derelict and the silent Sulaco), but to consider that only a mindless bug hunt is a bit silly. It is a critique of gun ho attitudes (as all those marines are idiots, excepting Hicks) and corporate greed (same as the first one). Yes it is horror and in someways bombastic, and a more a more intelligent movie in the same vein is Verhoeven's Starship Troopers.

And in defence of Chappie, it more realistic for a brand new Artifical entity to behave like a toddler than a fully conscious entity whose first interaction with his creator is about death and servitude (claimming he is immortal? how does that work when in the previous movie he was decapitated and without repair he most definitely would have gone offline?).

And repeat myself for you either path (David's reign and fall or Aliens 2) is equally unimpressive for me. the most interesting thing to me would have been to explore a civilization (Engineers) in which individuals willingly sacrificed themselves to create Xenomorphs (explored already in 6 movies, some good, some bad) (as BigDave pointed regarding the discarded Giger artwork).

daliens

And what if Scott dies while Blomkamp films his film and fails what kind of victory would that be? For whom would be that good?

And if there's no way around it and Blomkamp is to have the final word due to his connections with James Cameron (who is more than happy with the Disney/Fox deal), I would strongly suggest a brand new approach to the Alien franchise: raising Sergio Leone from the dead to direct its reboot:

I blame James Cameron and his infantile bug hunt, which seems to be so appealing to some, for all this mess. And Bloomkamp is nothing but an opportunist from my point of view. Chappie ("Mommy, mommy!") is a good example of what to expect if he ever manages to direct an Alien movie. Not to mention that bringing all that Ripley/Newt/Hicks stuff back would also require loads of CGI and three strong pairs of crutches.

joylitt

At this point I would advise Ridley Scott to let Blomkamp do his own film. It would be a sweet revenge for Scott but a waste of time for us all. Blomkamp's film cannot be any better than Alien Resurrection. That's my honest opinion.

daliens Yes. Like you said: no aliens, no horror, no Ripley. Everything should be about a big fat check... I don't think so, daliens. These guys I follow on you youtube said in their review of "All the money in the world" that they felt the movie was directed by someone who is "going to work". That's how I felt about Alien Covenant...

I didn't like Aliens so I would not care about Blomkamp's sequel to Aliens. He can wait...forever. 

Let Ridley Scott continue what he started. And please don't give in to fanboys, Ridley. Do it like you said: no aliens, no horror. No Ripley. 

MonsterZero

Very wise of you to agree with me ... haha.

Goodness knows to your question but here is the thing if you make a cottage industry movie and its huge hit everyone smiles. Then in the next one you throw dollars at it and your whole modus operandi changes. The dollar tale wags the artistic dog. Hey guys we want to make a movie about the origins of mankind. Cool do not put those penis head things in their cooked. Then Neil offers his "really helpful" story boards and half the fanbase start drooling at the mouth. Hey maybe we were about hasty on the penis head so we get AC.

Thats why a very dry financial brain might say lets chill out and come up with something really fresh which is much more genuinely violent and unsympathetic. The kind of difference between the tailors dummy of Roger Moore as JB and the Jason Bourne Bond of Daniel. I hear that Amazon are gonna reboot the Tolkien franchise its odds on that the same will happen to the Alien Universe.       

Completely agree w/ Capt Torgo.  I walked away from Covenant feeling the movie went nowhere.  I do like the suggestion that a follow on/sequel movie ten years in the future and finding David's head on Origae-6 and having him tell what happened would be a good take but honestly the train has jumped the tracks.  Its time to move on.  I don't want an android movie and I think this is what he is bought into.  The Alien universe has been established and there are good and interested directors and writers that can create stories for it.  I'm still baffled that you can end Prometheus with the expectation of seeing the Engineers world or something related to them, have it bombed and wait five years for this.  I don't like thinking about it since it just makes me upset.  And really flute lessons, WTF!

Michelle Johnston I agree on all your points.

I guess the big question is:   Just who is in charge?!? Is Fox(a division of Disney)or Disney? Does the old guard still call the shots, with permission from Disney, or are they all reassigned (fired/retired)?