LV 462 talk

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MemberOvomorphMarch 23, 20124321 Views78 RepliesI would like to hear more talk on why the planet LV-462 looks so much different in alien compared to prometheus? Im sure its safe to say it IS the same planet from alien because of the crashed ship. Maybe the dust cloud we see in the trailer has something to do with the change in atmosphere.. would be cool to hear more
March 23, 2012
The planet could of changed quite a bit by the time the Nostromo got there. I mean the Space Jockey was fossilized into the chair and its bio mechanical suit when Dallas and Lambert were observing it. The Space Jockey's could of been terraforming the planet and when Prometheus wiped out the derelict, its terraforming stopped. Thus the planet just became a big rock.
http://i.imgur.com/vbAPQY6.gif
March 23, 2012
Q: Does it rule out doing an actual Alien prequel?
DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.”
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/
March 23, 2012
Just a correction -—- we are talking about lv426 from alien. If it is lv426 tho it might not have human friendly atmosphere, it probably has different seasons. Maybe prometheus is during a different season than Nostors
March 23, 2012
Well, if it's not LV-426, what I really want to know is, how does the ship on LV-426 get there? Does it lift off from one of the other 4 temples?
Are there two crashed derelicts in the fullness of time?
March 23, 2012
Q: Does it rule out doing an actual Alien prequel?
DL: No, I don’t think it does. I think that there might actually be people out there who watch Prometheus and say, “This is an Alien prequel” but it’s a prequel in sort of a different sense than I’m used to. Isn’t it more interesting to think of a movie that takes place in the Alien universe, there are some familiar things that you will see along the way but if there were a sequel to Prometheus, it would not be Alien. That to me had to be the goal. God willing, if Prometheus is successful, and there is a sequel, it won’t be Alien because the end of this movie, if this movie is A to Z, Z is not there’s a bunch of eggs laying on the floor of LV-426. Z in this movie is entirely different although people will watch this movie and say, “I feel like I have a different contextual framework now for the original Alien, I’m going to watch it again. I feel like I know a little bit more than I knew before.”
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/comic-con-2011-exclusive-damon-lindelof-talks-prometheus-makes-peace-with-lost-fans/
March 23, 2012
I'd be tempted to say 'well, hell, maybe Prometheus will be completely unrelated to Alien, and good on Ridley for doing something completely new'.
But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all.
LV-426 or not LV-426??!!?? AArrgghhh!
March 23, 2012
It's not LV426 we already know this, Ridley stayed away from the Alien storey, thus to give something brand new with "strands" of Alien DNA as we have heard so many times. To tie it in directly with Alien and Aliens on the same planet would just take away so much from the original storey line that we know and love, would probably bring up more questions than answers.
This is an entire new storey within what we know already, but not taking away the fact that we already have experienced several films ( good or bad ) what the "alien" is all about. We have seen already a new "being" and a probable alien on a wall or it could be on the ceiling " Prometheus are you seeing this?" but the planet is Zeus 2
( correct me if I'm wrong) which is a entire new planet.
Our "gods" ( in the film ) landed there and we stumbled acorss a invitation that was miss-read on Earth resulting in "US" finding something we shouldn't have but geared for us to actually do so, due to your technology at the time and then "we" put the entire Earth at jepardy !!!
Trust me it's not LV426 !!!!
We will see something like the Xenomorpth in the film but a new weapon that our "gods" have made or had tried to achieve, but "we" tamper with it and make what is the demise of our "gods" and potentially ours too, until we intervein. However Weyland Corp IS always watching and thanks to the "suit" who we all know who it is and David 8, is ALL recorded and sent back to Earth.
Nothing escapes them and then sparks the real search for the ultimate
BIO-WEAPEN !!!
NO it's not GUYVER !!!! lol
March 23, 2012
Ok, now listen UP!! I want you people to put down the bongs and stop smoking the sticky icky.
Those canisters they find in Prometheus, yes could very well be the "first" generation face hugger container.
You also have to remember Kane, Lambert and Dallas did NOT do a full on exploration of the derelict. They saw the space jockey, then Kane notices an opening in the platform. Kane sees an area filled with thousands of eggs. Now who is to say the Alien that busted through the space Jockey didn't become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks?
It is just amazing how some people on these forums are just horrified at the possibility that the movie takes place on LV-426 and that ship is in fact the Derelict from Alien.
I am going to enjoy the moment when all this comes true, so I can come back here and say I TOLD YOU SO!!
But there is always the off chance, I will get the same treatment. In either event this movie will still be amazing and may even turn out better than what we expected. I just love the dialog we are all having. It is all in good fun.
March 23, 2012
[quote][i]But the key factor for me is that it's the same system. Ringed planet 'n' all.[/i][/quote]
In an infinite universe the possibility of similar looking planets...not unlikely.
Unless Scott or Lindelof mentioned somewhere it is the same star system, which I haven't heard or read.
March 23, 2012
[quote][i]become a queen in order to prolong the species and laid those eggs in their natural lathery sacks?[/i][/quote]
The queen was an invention by Cameron, not Scott.
March 23, 2012
It's Zeta Reticuli! It say's so on the Weyland Yutaini website?? (I'm pretty sure it does)?
March 23, 2012
why does everyone say that Cameron's ideas are not cannon? now i can understand not liking it (i mean i love it but still) but that does not make it not cannon. like i said, there are more relations to aliens then there is alien. and if aliens is not cannon..... then why add the D on the end of weyland?????
March 23, 2012
Just because Cameron created the queen still doesn't mean it couldn't have existed in Alien... Just because you never see a queen in Alien doesn't mean there never was one.
March 23, 2012
[quote][i]why does everyone say that Cameron's ideas are not cannon? now i can understand not liking it (i mean i love it but still) but that does not make it not cannon. like i said, there are more relations to aliens then there is alien. and if aliens is not cannon..... then why add the D on the end of weyland?????[/i][/quote]
[quote][i]Just because Cameron created the queen still doesn't mean it couldn't have existed in Alien... Just because you never see a queen in Alien doesn't mean there never was one.[/i][/quote]
Ridley Scott has been quoted as saying he enjoyed Aliens, but that does not make Cameron's ideas canon to Alien/Prometheus.
You can't pick and choose. If Aliens is canon 'just because', then 3/Resurrection/AvPI&II would then be too.
Judging by the direction Prometheus is taking, the Queen is definitely not canon because all that does is strip the Xenomorphs down to nothing but alien cockroaches.
March 23, 2012
@Sigismundo
please i don't want to get in this again, go read the big discussion on the alien discussions page called "alien vs aliens" should be about half way down. and i think that 3 is cannon, i dont think resurrection is because it changed it to almost a dark comedy, and if it is cannon it really doesn't matter anyway, but AvP is 100% not cannon, they are based on the comic books, not the actual alien and predator movies, that makes them there own separate cannon. and there is nothing in Prometheus that says there cant be a queen. in fact it makes the possibility for a queen even more open, because yeah they wont explore that, but it is about mutation and the miss use of bio tech correct? with that the possibility is open for anything including a queen forming in the mix. and why do people hate the bug idea so much????? IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUG LIKE IN THE FIRST MOVIE!!!!!!!!! and what do you think is the most successful species on the planet is???? you can bet your ass its not us!!!!! just go crack open a termite hill and watch how effective they are.
March 23, 2012
I don't think it's LV-426.
In Zeta-Reticuli and in Alien, there are other planets that are seen in the space shots.
Also - if Prometheus ends with the Derelict (Bone-ship) set up for Alien - then there won't be the possibility for a Prometheus sequel - and that would be true disaster.
So then, why is this movie about the Space Jockey and why is the ship here? Why not just create another story and be done with it? BECAUSE Ridley Scott said he always wanted to go back and tell the SJ story. That is what Prometheus is about.
It does not matter to me if it or any sequels tie directly into Alien. I'm excited about the 'new series' in any case...
TM5
March 23, 2012
Well who is to say that the "engineers" didn't foresee the byproduct of creating a weapon that evolved. They may have intended to create the xenomorph to do its planet "cleaning" but maybe their weapon wanted to continue on its own. The Space Jockey race may be more advanced than the humans, but that certainly does not make them perfect.