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MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 5:34 PMI would like to hear more talk on why the planet LV-462 looks so much different in alien compared to prometheus? Im sure its safe to say it IS the same planet from alien because of the crashed ship. Maybe the dust cloud we see in the trailer has something to do with the change in atmosphere.. would be cool to hear more
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LV426JGFPM
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 8:53 PMEven if the writer of Prometheus and Scott somehow connected Prometheus to Alien and therefore ran into Aliens. It does NOT mean that they would be tied down to those movies.
Prometheus adds a "fork" in the road for the franchise. They can still tie Prometheus in with Alien, and at the same time still continue on with the newly made path.
Weyland-Yutani most definitely had other plans in the works. They could have had other projects going on that coincided with other missions. Perhaps while the Nostromo was doing its thing Weyland-Yutani they were studying what they had already found on LV-426 from the Prometheus mission. WY could be exploring more systems? Following different leads? Prometheus itself opens the story wide open for tons of possibilities.

Alien Drone
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 8:53 PMWe already know it's not the same ship or derelict as in Alien, for several reasons. First, the Space Jockey was fossilized according to Dallas. Then the cockpit/seat and platform area is totally different looking, no stasis chambers found in Alien on the derelict and finally, the Space Jockey in Alien was huge, so was the seat in comparison to Dallas, Kane and Lambert.
I would reason the same way about the planet Prometheus is on, nothing like LV-426, terrain or atmosphere, plus the rotation of LV-426 is 2 hours. On Alien they found no structures or runways/road or Nazca Lines as they do in Prometheus.
Of course Ridley could just disregard the Alien movie and do what he wants, which I think would be very disappointing to the fans that want continuity between both movies.

LV426JGFPM
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 8:55 PM@Alien Drone
Are you just totally ignoring what others have stated? I mean its fine that you believe what you do, but you appear to have a very closed mind.

Alien Drone
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 9:01 PMI think the planet Prometheus lands on is totally different than LV-426, it might be a base, memorial, temple or even a storage area for different species that have been developed by the Space Jockeys and then taken through out the universe to seed different planets. I think the crew of the Prometheus somehow get mixed up in something they have no business in and really screw things up. Possibly the Space Jockey gets pissed or maybe he trys to clean things up, maybe there is more than one, one bad and one good. I also think there is more than one android, also one good and one bad.
It ought to be one wild ride though!

Alien Drone
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 9:07 PMLV426JGFPM, I didn't know you were appointed this forums monitor, I have every right to say what I want as much as you do and respond as I see fit, you got a problem with that, then go somewhere else or talk to the administrator!
I'm here to have fun, the same as everyone else. Just chill man!

genjitsu17
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 9:26 PMI can see the planet getting f'd up. (But think it's a new world.) The glaring differences in the platform design are what nail it for me. l mean they look like TOTALLY different ships. The pilot room didn't "devolve" the stasis areas into a completely symetrical pattern. The original platform was the least organic part of the ship. With no signs of the boney devolution some suggest. Diff. planet, diff. ship. The folks saying it's a diff. planet aren't the mad ones either. Read all the posts. Appears to be the other way around. CAN'T WAIT TO SCREAM.....er, silently....in space.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.

LV426JGFPM
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 9:56 PM@Alien Drone,
I was in no way saying that I was a monitor. It was just a questions that I had asked personally. I felt as though, you choose not to acknowledge what others have pointed out. That is just me, that is all. I am here to have fun too.
It was just a curious question to you.
No reason to tell me to chill either, I am not mad.
You are appearing to be a little over sensitive with your comment. I think you were looking way into what I said. I meant no offense.

Alien Drone
MemberOvomorphMar-23-2012 10:28 PMLV426JGFPM, since you do not know me personally, then it is best not to make comments about ones mind, closed or otherwise......or say I am over sensitive, this is a forum about Prometheus, not a discussion on me personally.
You were way out of line!
Jocky Hunter
MemberOvomorphMar-24-2012 12:02 AMMaybe it is like Earth's seasons maybe it changes after times and Ross, it wasn't an "unsurveyed" world in Alien Ripley says the message was a warning.

Kane77
MemberOvomorphMar-24-2012 9:40 AMI dont think taht the end of prometheus will just fit in to the beginning of ALIEN, like, the THE THING prequel..there you can clearly see this was part of the plot.
I can imagine without any ptoblem, that Ridley made a whole new world with SJ and a derelict that is NOT from ALIEN, as he stated. ( quote above) .
I also could imagine this IS LV426 and the original derelict. When this is the case he would have to answer CORRECTLY all circumstances of ALIEN, waht I dont think.
- size of SJ
- fossilized chair
- are there more derelicts (maybe one escapes and shipwrecks on LV426)
the question is then, was weyland-yutani able to get all the infos from Prometheus, before it gets destroyed?
- how do SJ replicate themselves, are they interbreeding, have sex?, have maybe 300 year lifespan?
-when no queen, where did they come from in ALIEN?
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Starbeast
MemberOvomorphMar-24-2012 11:06 AMFirstly, the queen was the next progressive thing to do for a sequel. It added to the canon. If Cameron had helmed the first movie and Scott the second, we'd still get the queen, or something similar to make a sequel worthwhile - that's why the third and fourth films fail imo, because they don't bring anything to the table.
Secondly, Scott doesn't give a sugar about canon - he is its mother and he will do right by it. That's why it's Peter Weyland, not Charles Bishop Weyland; that's why he kept the 'D' in Weyland, that why he kept the slogan 'Building Better Worlds'. He doesn't even feel he answers to the fans - has anyone heard a quote saying we're making this for the fans? No. But I just hope he doesn't become the next George Lucas.
But to get back on topic, I never thought about the seasonal effect but that to me is a great explanation to get around the disparity of landscape between Prometheus and Alien. Also, over 30 years, the weather may have carved the landscape with dust into the eerily familiar Alien landscape.
Having said that, I can also understand (as others have stated) that leaving the story open-ended to allow for possible sequels is good for business for the studios.
Great discussion.
P.S.: Did you guys know that Renny Harlin was meant to do Alien 3 but could not put together a worthy story and so left the project? Imagine that...

serratedproboscis
MemberOvomorphMar-25-2012 4:15 AMOR. Think of this: (and this answer some other forum threads)
A) No one builds one type of ship and then uses it. If you find a design that works, you build as many as you need. Especially if you're advanced enough..
B) The Weyland site says there have been three responses to the cosmic call. That may mean three completely different sites where the "SJ"s may be operating from.
Why would this all powerful group be located in only one place. And why give away the location of your homebase / planet. Why not a controlled location, where if any damage is done, it won't lead anyone to your true home?
Further, maybe the Nostromo did just pick up a signal. That signal happened to be similar to the Prometheus project's findings, and Mother was keyed in to it, thus waking the crew.
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