SJ Ship is the Derelict

Gavin

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The Space Jockey ship we will see in Prometheus [b]IS[/b] the derelict. I have downloaded every trailer that has been released for Prometheus and have just rewatched the original trailer that was released back in december and compared it to the new trailers... THE SHAPE AND ORIENTATION OF THE DERELICT HAS CHANGED Heres the old version of the Derelict from the december trailer... [img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/OldDerelict.jpg[/img] And heres the new version of the Derelict from the UK trailer... [IMG]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewDerelict.jpg[/IMG] And heres the original Derelict from the 1979 Alien... [img]http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/derelict.jpg[/img] In the original trailer the Derelict looked more angular and sharper, much to the fans dis-satisfaction, and started the debate that it wasn't the same ship from Alien. Yet in the new trailers the ship is more bulbous and organic looking, and is positioned 180 degrees the other way round. Obviously the fans voices have been heard and the Derelict was changed to better look like the Derelict from Alien. Thus IMHO this is the Derelict from Alien, and this is LV-426/Archeron.

skyguy1054
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March 26, 2012

I have no evidence for this, but has anyone considered that there may be fleets of these ships?

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March 26, 2012

The "hammerhead" side now looks even less like the original.

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March 26, 2012

@ skyguy. Sure, why wouldn't they have more? Pretty lame super-race if they only have one ship. Not sure what to think of that pic. More organic, yes. More like original, no.

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March 26, 2012

Its the same kind of ship, but I don't think we can definitively prove same ship same planet based on the changes to make the ship look better.

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Gavin
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March 26, 2012

Picture of the original Derelict from 1979 Alien has been added for extra comparison @ muthur182 - from what we can see in the trailers the Derelict rolls towards Shaw and Vickers, after it has done this it will most likely topple onto its underneath and settle into the position seen in Alien. @ Genjitsu17 - With the new added picture I would say that it looks all but identical to the original Derelict from 1979 Alien.

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March 26, 2012

I originally though that the reversed shape of the boneship was a hint. A hint to that the boneships are grown and it's only DNA modification which cause the boneship to grow in mirror shape. Now it seems like simple early production error :( The fact that the production wants the ships to look the same is taking away lot of potential from the possible story.

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March 26, 2012

If I look again carefully at the pictures the shape did not change. Only the position is reversed. Check the 3 central openings (the entrances used in Alien movies). If these opening are near the ground the hammerhead is on the right side. And this is the same on all 3 picures. They only changed the orientation in which the ship slides from left to right on the Prometheus pictures.

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March 26, 2012

Actuallt the picture from the new trailer (the second pic) is more bulbous and rounded, and the two prongs have been amended also!

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March 26, 2012

Snorks, I agree with you. The ship is the Derelict. If this were NOT the derelict, Scott would have designed a new 'SJ ship' of some sort. Instead, it is almost identical to the original design. A little less 'curvy' but very very close. The changes between trailers is very interesting. (Innards being black in the new scene with David and the urn.) The one thing that really bugs me about the new redesign is the cockpit/control room. The 'boneship' look of the original design now looks completely different. If these are supposed to be the same ship, then I hope the gun/turret/control-room is multi-tiered and that we simply haven't seen the room from Alien, yet. Whether that is a multi-roomed approach, or a transformation of the ship, I really don't care. But it drives me crazy that the rooms are so drastically different, IF they are the same room... [img]http://i.imgur.com/OFms4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/upload/14prompromhires122211.jpg[/img]

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March 26, 2012

WHAT IF........each S/J, or crew of S/J's have their own ship but each one is tailored different to the driver?, customized if you will. I.E.-- say 4 people have the exact same model car, but each one will customize it differently to suit their own taste. I don't believe that the alien ship from Alien and Prometheus are the same ship, I believe they are in communication with others spread out across the universe and when the ship crashes on the Prometheus planetoid, he calls his homie over in Zeta-Reticuli 1, to jam to Earth right quick and finish the job. (maybe)

Gavin
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March 26, 2012

two identical ships crash from the same species in the same system, dont think so

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March 26, 2012

please bro, i saw that same scenario in the rain storm yesterday, 2 cars, same species, crashed 25 feet apart from each other. (i forgot you wrote the film snorks...) really? -edit: (BTW, they were in the same system too, same planet even, lol)

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March 26, 2012

Like I said you expect ridley to say "lets do another film, where another space jockey, in an identical ship, crashes again in the same system"... Really? Even ridley aint that stupid, come on!

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March 26, 2012

Not crashed again, crashed (stranded) originally. Ship on the prometheus planetoid destroyed. I guess we will have to agree to disagree, and find out in 73 days homie.

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March 26, 2012

@ TKfanboy - I don't follow your position on this, I am saying that this is the same derelict we see in Alien, I though that was clear!

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March 26, 2012

Honestly...I go back and forth on that point Snorky....I can see it logically from both sides.....

Gavin
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March 26, 2012

The way I see it is this... [i]Prometheus - Ridley Scott makes a film where... a Space Jockey in a Derelict ship crashes in the Zeta Reticuli system. Alien - Ridley Scott makes a film where... a Space Jockey in an identical Derelict ship also crashes in the same system.[/i] ... Somehow I don't see that happening, unless they are infact the one and same event - this [b][u]IS[/u][/b] the Derelict from Alien.

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March 26, 2012

And that is totally cool my friend, because I don't follow your position on this either, your theory was in your honest opinion, and mine was mine. I didn't try to debunk YOUR opinion, only add mine, so all I ask is the same courtesy. This is a fan forum for discussion, not ; "My idea is right, so everyone else go with it." - I would never do that simply for a fun debate's sake. That's all i'm saying my man. If I hurt your feelings....I apologize. ;) I'm over it. But I do like alot of your other ideas---as I've stated in other threads.

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March 26, 2012

From the outside.....and in the same left/right, up/down orientation.... the SJ ship in "Prometheus" looks essentially the same as the derelict......but you could say the same about our retired space shuttle fleet. One unsurprisingly looks almost exactly like another. However, the inside of the Prometheus SJ ship is another story entirely. The map room is a different shape, there are several large pods on the platform, and there are clear differences in details between the "Alien" and "Prometheus" chairs. I don't accept the notion that RS or anyone else involved in this production had a "casual" attitude about continuity.......or that the pods somehow disappear and the chair changes as a result of goo-mutation, etc. There's actually more evidence to conclude that they're two different ships, rather than they're the same.......unless you accept the notion that every light blue 09 Chevy Malibu you see parked at your local mall must belong to the same person.

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March 26, 2012

Prometheus - Ridley Scott makes a film where... a Space Jockey in a Derelict ship crashes in the Zeta Reticuli system at LV-426. Alien - Ridley Scott makes a film where... humans end up back at the site of the original stranded derelict in the same system at LV-426. (Not the one destroyed by the Prometheus on the planetoid IN prometheus.) --can you at least see where i'm coming from, cause i can see where you are coming from, i just dont agree with it. (THIS IS LIKE ARGUING WITH MY WIFE---LMAO.)

SJ Ship is the Derelict

Gavin

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