Time displacement Theory True?

Ridley Scott did make reference to "the beginning of time" in at least one interview.

The planet was descibed as "deep cold, well below the line." Maybe the cold caused the remains to appear fossilized since there was no moisture. There is also no proof that the prometheus planet is the Alien planet.

The line in Alien is "Deep coal, well below the line" as Ash and Dallas were looking at what the planet has to offer so they can come back and extract it. And the fossilization of the SJ in the chair, I believe to be dead bones and tissue since the "derelict" ship is living organic so it doesn't have to be that long for a body to decompose. But I won't rule out time travel since he did say something about the beginning of time.

I read something somewhere, months ago, that the crew of the prometheus arrives at the alien god's home world and are greeted and then transported even further into deep space to a scary yet fascinating world..... Maybe that is the time/interdimensional unit envolved. yet that was early on where tidbits of the plot were first being leaked. we shall see....

The talk of the beginning of time is at the start of the film - the UFO over the waterfall. which is to be narrated by a well known voice over guy (yet I don't remember his name). FTL travel, theoretically, would not cause the Prometheus to travel back in time, but forward at an accelerated rate (kind of, allegedly). Furthermore, the SJ in Alien is not fossilized, its suit has faded (also it actually looks nothing like a fossil), the fossilized statement (Dallas) was uttered because they believed they were seeing the skeletal remains of a creature not a degraded biomechanical suit, as stated by Ridley and shown in the new trailers.

Fossilization takes thousands of years to occur on earth. We know next to nothing about all the processes of our world vs. how or how long they occur in other places. It's science fiction- with the "fiction" part being half of the name. If you can dive into the story of zenos, chestbursters, jockeys, alien civilizations, FTL interstellar travel, anti-gravity, and all of Earth's resource shortages solved by a corporation, then a little thing like the time it takes an alien life form to fossilize on another planet isn't too big of a step for me. As RS has proven with the 1979 film, some questions are better left without an answer. It won't ruin the film for me if there are parts that I can't fit all together in a nice puzzle. Little things like that- intentional or not, make the story better not worse.

Also I think you may mean Time Dilation... Time Displacement - (from the Terminator Franchise) is when a point in space and time is displaced (swapped) with another - hence the glowing ball. Time Dilation - the faster and object moves the quicker/slower time around it moves.

It doesn't *have* to be a fact because we don't know for certain that we're on LV426 or that the ship(s?) we see will be the derelict in Alien. That said, it's intriguing that they'd mention it on WeylandIndustries.com and I do think that it will play a part in the film.

I've never liked the 'fossilised' term concerning the SJ - mummified seems more fitting. Aren't fossils developed under rock pressure over millions of years?

i think Time tavel of some sort, especialyl with Lindholfs LOST series experience with that.

@ZetaReticuli Yes. For an organic object to actually become fossilized, it must be buried, and its' constituent organic parts -or an impression of the object's shape/parts thereof- must be replaced by minerals

If time travel (of sorts) is involved then what's the hurry (and point) in stopping the Derelict ship getting to Earth? ... I don't see the point ... has just one ship got FTL? ... have they BOTH got FTL? ... I don't get it ... hmmm ... They land on a planet called LV-223 ... so ... I still reckon there's 2 Derelict ships involved and therefore one crashes on LV-426 ......

Per the Weyland Industries site: "Weyland scientists discover the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time making the long sought-after concept of faster than light travel a reality. The search for practical application begins." Sounds to me like there is a corollary to relativity theory, so we won't deal with time travel.

Gem]n[, Where are you getting this LV-223?

In the subtitles for both the original and re-release DVDs of Alien, the line as spoken is given as "deep cold, well below the line" As for the "fossil" thing, I've never understood why so many people take that line so seriously. Dallas, not a scientist or expert, looks at the pilot chair and says "looks like it's fossilized" and then they never examine the jockey or anything ever again (obviously busy with alien issues). Clearly it was meant as a off-hand line...someone making a quick, instant judgement..."hey, this thing looks fossilized." So, maybe the jockey suit thing is biological material. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it operates physically in ways no one would understand by jockeys. I don't think the line was meant to imply the jockey was LITERALLY fossilized.

Hmmm I would say that the SJ in Alien looks more "petrified" than fossilized. I think Dallas says "looks fossilized" but that does not mean that the SJ is actually fossilized. More likely that the body is simply petrified or dried out and frozen in place. This would not have to have taken place over thousands of years.

Pite, I agree, petrified. petrified in 30 years? lol.. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion..

Lame but what the hell-upon the return trip,the survivors,or mainly David, go back in time to Earth's twilight,and he leaves the cave drawings because now he has the secrets to our evolution and gives us monkeys the genetic codes to become who we are.Chicken or the egg sort of thing.Maybe the SJ were never here at all,WE found them.

The famous "fossilized" note : [list] Dallas and everyone else has fogged visor in his suit Dallas saw something he newer saw before. To climb up to the chair platform was not easy. He touched the SJ only with his space suit glove once. The spacesuit is heavy duty and the gloves It was dark environment and unknown materials. Dallas mentioned the "fossilized" before he touched it. [/list] To me the fosillized note is the main argument for need of time travel between Prometheus and Alien time lines. And this is pretty weak argument. My speculations: I would be happy if the Space Jockey is partially scorched. Someone scorched him with flamethrower when the xeno chest busted from him. So the scorching appear "fossilized" or petrified. And the SJ chamber in Alien may be chamber below the 3D Map chamber in Prometheus. The chair is elevated from there up to the map room.

When I said FTL, I meant the talked about time 'dilation' thing that popped up as in a weird thing that made them go 'somewhere in time' ... because if it was just a one off trip through a random portal then they won't be going back home in a hurry ... is that makin' sense??? ... damn i confuse myself sometimes ... So ... yeah I can grasp FLT itself as that seems a logical step forward for humans ... and yes I did see that on Weylands Timeline ... hence corrected statement ;) ... @danrald ... Some dude posted it on another board ... and he was adamant he'd get sacked if he said anymore ... lol ... he basically said he saw a scene regarding Prometheus's mission brief ... I'm going with that as that does makes sense ...

Its nice to see some people are not stuck on this "Fossilization" issue, unlike this thread I did earlier... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/1105]HERE[/url]

This FTL thing concerns me a little. Prometheus, the film, is no different from either Alien or Aliens, in that the crew go into Hypersleep (for whatever duration) arrive at their destination, wake up and go about their business of killing things. So is anybody really concerned that they reach their destination any faster (other than time passing back home... will anybody make it back home?). So much seems to be made of FTL, that I'm sure it must become relevant at some other point in the movie that we don't know about yet... Otherwise, who really cares? I seriously hope it doesn't mean time travel/dilation/whatever, as that will open a whole can of worms!

IMO this whole FTL business is just a way of rationalizing elements within the film for the real geeky fans

"Weyland scientists discover the [b]inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time[/b] making the long sought-after concept of faster than light travel a reality." From my understanding of this and my hunch, I would say they are trying to explain that our current concept of FTL travel may be flawed. In that, if I am not mistaken, the nearer to light speed an object travels, the more time dilates to this object. The world, observers, slow-moving objects around this object would experience time more quickly than the object moving at near light speed. In theory, if the crew of Prometheus were in transit to LV-223 for their perceived 2 years and 4 months, us observers back on earth should perceive many more years of their transit time, thus perceiving FTL travel to be possible to crew on board a ship moving very fast. This trip may in fact have taken decades or so from Earth's viewpoint, but the crew may have actually experienced 2 years of time. This would in theory allow space travel light distances if time dilation worked that drastically, and we could obviously design the propulsion to get us to close to light speed. Oh and they mention the Prometheus having Ion Propulsion drives, and I have read that they may one day be capable of producing more efficient ion drives that may be capable of offering a low thrust/gradual climb in speed over the course of the trip but allow for attaining velocities (near light speed, maybe even 0.1-.25c would suffice) needed for reasonable travel time for crew I think if you have a life supporting ship for voyage, propulsion capable of gradually but continuously accelerating to attain relativistic speeds and decelerating to slow down along trip, some form of stasis or cryo, and probably a million other advances in engineering/quatum physics/ biomed/ navigation, this would very well be possible