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Ripley Clone 8
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 7:11 PMWe know by the the time Alien Resurrection takes place Weyland-Yutani was long gone history subsequently replaced in a sense by the United Systems Military.
Ripley 8- "Everyone in the company will die."
Gediman- "In the...In the company?"
Wren- "Weyland-Yutani, Ripley's former employers. Terran growth conglomerate. They had...defense contracts under the military. Went down decades ago Gediman, way before your time."
Ripley 8- "Why did you come here?"
Call- "To kill you remember. Before the recall I accessed the main frame, ever dirty little cover up the government ever dreamed of is in there, and this, you the aliens. I knew if they succeeded it would be the end of them."
Weyland-Yutani is portrayed as this incredibly powerful corporation. "Building Better Worlds" as I should put it. Go read the 'coporate timeline' at WeylandIndustries.com. That alone should tell you how technologically advanced and intelligent the corporation was alone in its early days.
But what caused them to die out? Money? Greed? Power? Death? Destruction? (lol maybe Walmart?) The first 3 ALIEN films emphasized Weyland-Yutani's destructive nature on humanity. Not giving a rats ass about anyone else but themselves and the Xenomorph. But what caused that all to change? Ripley killed herself and stopped 'The Company' from extracting the Queen Alien embryo within her. 200 years later the United Systems Military visits Fiorina 161, extracts frozen blood samples and clones Ripley to retreive the Queen Alien. Within that 200 year time period there had to be a drastic change, something that wiped clean Weyland-Yutani forever. What are your theories?
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silica
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 7:19 PMthe Predators? ;)
likening the history of the use of spacecraft to the history of the use of computers...one day, large companies lost their monopoly, with their big vacuum tube machines and their government contracts, and the personal computer was born. After that, the development of computing (space travel) was driven by individual pioneers as much as by big firms....
clayj
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 7:22 PMI believe that the novelization of "Alien Resurrection" states that it was, in fact, Walmart who took over Weyland-Yutani.
This premise is so ridiculous that I don't consider it canon -- as far as I am concerned, any mention of Walmart is purely a result of the author trying to be a smartass. (Much of the movie conveys that same feeling to me -- so much so that I don't consider it in the same league as the first three movies.)
It's entirely possible that in the 200 years between Ripley's death and resurrection, that The Company simply became too large to remain intact -- and that some part of it (the part dealing with bioweapons) became appropriated by the United Systems Military. Other parts of The Company may still be out there, operating under other names.
Preston
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 8:10 PMBig companies go broke all by themselves. Look how many would have gone broke without their government handout in 2007.
mw3
MemberOvomorphApr-02-2012 9:12 PMdave went ape shit and killed lots of ppl so they had to recall all of them dave-8;s thats y thay went tits up......
czelaya
MemberOvomorphApr-03-2012 10:53 PMWhat causes all corporations to fail?
1.) If the future is capitalism-which I suspect-it's always competition. New emerging technologies, many times unforeseen, can easily break into a competitors market share. One good example is how downloadable music destroyed CD, DVD, and other music software industries.
2.) Not evolving with the market. Industries and corporations need to evolve. If they don't, competitors eat your market share. Barnes & Nobles and Borders were in the business of selling high volume books. However in the last 10 year Borders didn't adapt to internet book sales. Now Borders is in serious demise because it didn't adapt, and Barnes & Nobles still retains a considerable market share because it did.
3.) Corporations having liquidity problems because they over expand and over invest. Sounds very viable for Weyland Industries considering there in the building worlds business.
4.) Losing government contracts/lobbyist laws that protect certain players in a particular business. In the far future, because of all the new worlds being created one can see how planets are initially started by parent governments, but eventually want independence. Thus for large corporations in such industries, these markets are probably very volatile. For instance sugar industries being largely subsidized by the US government. If US sugar industries ever lose their protectionist laws, they would be subject to harsh competition from foreign competitors.
This is what is always seen in economic studies in our global economies.
Lord Ennio
MemberOvomorphApr-04-2012 6:03 PMI still have a hard time believing the premise as to how the United Systems Military came about getting the DNA for Ripley, especially since she killed herself in Alien 3! But, enough of that. In the end, it had to be greed that did them in. As Ripley said in Aliens to Burke, "You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse...them or us. But, at least they don't screw each other over for a goddamn percentage."
b5historyman
MemberOvomorphApr-05-2012 9:45 PMIts mentioned that there was a war and Weyland-Yutani were brought out by Wal-Mart. In my timeline material I posited that the conflict was between the United Americas and the Third World Empire. As they lost and the UA won, the company ended up being sold off as some sort of restitution for the war. Judging from comments made by Johner and the destroyed Paris the TWE needed money to help rebuild much of Europe so the company was sacrificed
Zedwardson
MemberOvomorphApr-13-2012 12:56 PMFor example.
Eastman Kodak which for a century dominated its feild, which in 1996 was worth 25 billion. (36 billion dollars in today's money, so as much as Larry Ellison today) and by far the best company in its field. Today it is a dead company that is being broken apart for its parts.
IBM, which was the greatest, most high tech company in the world for decades was one Bad CEO away from being broken apart. Then they saved the company by being consultants who happen to sell hardware and software.
Microsoft was the premier software company for a few decades, new technology has nipped them.
And yes, Apple is worth say, 600 billion or so, with 100 billion in the bank. It could be dead in 15 years if technology shifts and changes how we buy things.
So even "The company" could break apart, not that there isn't juicy bits of technology or information that might be bought out.
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