Detection of COAL on LV-426

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MemberOvomorphApril 12, 20124498 Views26 RepliesIn ALIEN, when Dallas asks Ash for an atmospheric analysis, he states some familiar trace elements etc etc, then ends with it has a layer of coal well below the base line, intriguing himself and Dallas. This means that LV-426 had organic life at one time since coal comes from organic matter. Any thoughts? If this has been discussed my apologies...
April 13, 2012
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April 13, 2012
From the script.
ASH
10 percent agron, 85 precent
nitrogen, 5 percent neon...I'm
working on the trace elements
ASH
Rock, lava base. And cold...
well below the centrigrade line
However I like your interpretation better it leaves a lot more possibilities.
April 13, 2012
Thanks for the clarification. Was just watching Alien and picked that up and was wondering why that was never discussed. My bad hearing I suppose lol. Thank you.. But that would have made things interesting
April 13, 2012
No, no, no. I told you that if they had actually used your dialogue it would have been much more interesting. Suggesting that the Derelict may have harvested those Eggs from LV426. Anywho, it all turned out badly in the long run. Poor little explorers. : (
April 13, 2012
It does sound like Ash says "deep coal" well below the line, and Dallas goes "humph.." sounding intrigued. And he's already talking about a lava base with Dallas after they discussed the primordial atmosphere. So to me it wouldn't make sense to say "deep cold" when talking about what's below the surface unless he was talking about permafrost and that doesn't seem to be the case, it just wouldn't make sense. I closed captioned it and it interprets as "deep cold ", but it still may not be right.. Unless I see it in a true movie script I won't be sure and this could change the complex of this new movie prequel.
April 13, 2012
Actually, I don't think that a towing vehicle has underground probes to do a stratigraphic analysis and verify that there is coal in the deep. But that's just my view.
Then again, in my opinion it makes more sense to say the surface temperature of a planet when you first get to know it rather than its composition, especially if you are going to take a walk on it.
Apart from that, the script says so, and if you don't believe the script, the subtitles in the DVD say "cold". Also, the foreign language translations say "cold".
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 13, 2012
Incredible, that same remark sparked the same reaction on many people; in the script what was actually said was a reference to temperature not coal. The latter would have made sense though also, since Dallas nods with an interested.."hmmm"; being they work on a refining facility...
April 13, 2012
The translation is bullshit on the DVD...words are changed and omitted all over the place. Besides, no scientist would say "deep cold, well below the line." Ash plainly states, "deep coal, well below the line." Dallas acknowledges this info with a surprised affirmative Hmmm. Geologists use the term Deep Coal and Deep Oil when referring to organic fuel deposists well below the crusts surface line.
April 13, 2012
@NoXword...thanks for the clarification. I still want to see the script though, because CC and subtitles are sometimes wrong. Ash has a British accent and it can be misinterpreted through subtitles etc. I'll look online for the original script.
Once again, I feel "deep coal"makes sense in the context of the conversation. Why would it be deep cold under a lava base which he was describing. Why didn't Ash say deep cold when talking about the atmosphere?
And I personally believe the vehicle would have detection devices. We can detect coal layers today on sound waves alone.
Anyway no need to argue, you are probably right. But I thought it would change things some, it does in my head lol
April 14, 2012
Ash clearly states, "Deep coal, well below the line." The translations are incorrect and even words are changed and deleted all over the place on the DVD. The staement uses terms applicable to mining jargon . The "line" refers to the surface of the crust. Centigrade is not mentioned and the terms do not apply to any meterological vernacular I've ever heard used. Dallas would not be intrigued by cold weather, but coal would be useful.
April 14, 2012
So the foreign translations (I don't mean the subtitles, but actual professional dubbing) are wrong? Fox gave wrong scripts to the translators?
Might be, but I honestly doubt it, everything else is translated correctly.
But then again, to each his own.
Peace
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.