how deep will prometheus be?

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MemberOvomorphMay 05, 20121230 Views16 RepliesHey all!
I've been thinking on this for a very long time and I know we all were...
Subjects like the origins of mankind or maybe life itself are surely deep, but how much emphasis will prometheus give to those subjects? Ridley scott said that "the surprise is in the story" and he made some very deep movies like blade runner, so, I have high expectations
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They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
May 05, 2012
"How deep a movie depend about how shallow is the person watching it ."
Or how shallow the ideas, the film portrays.
May 05, 2012
Ridley and others like Michael Fassbender have said that Prometheus is essentially like a mix between Alien and Blade Runner, 2 films that are not only absolutely amazing, but I think are also quite intelligent in different ways. I don't know about you, but I personally find this comparison very exciting!
May 05, 2012
@ derelict jockey I found that comparison very exciting too, and weird, because they're very different movies...However, both show psychological aspects of mankind, specially the fear and the affliction.
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
May 05, 2012
How deep a movie is depend about how shallow is the person watching it .
Prometheus will have some very basic intriguing questions but is basically an horror action movie . It will not be nowhere near to bladerunner . However Alien didnt have big questions and is one of the best movies ever ( because primal fears are the most scary things !! ).
We will see !!
May 05, 2012
I have never been disappointed by this director. The man is amazing in his way to tell a story. In Gladiator, it seemed that almost every frame of the film was like a painting especially the 1st Colosseum exterior shot.
So, I'm betting on Mr. Scott to astound us visually as well as with a deeply impacting story.
May 05, 2012
I maintain to this day that the extended cut of that film may be one of the most perfect films ever made.
May 05, 2012
The film is about, among other things, the origin of the human race. Sounds pretty deep to me.
Of course I could be wrong, so very wrong.
May 05, 2012
If you see a movie with God fighting with Satan with bolts and armies of angels vs armies of devils that will make a deep movie ? Nah .
ITs not only the question that is posed , is about how seriousely you deal with it ....and in a movie where there is a cobra hugger that cant be TOO serious ( and we are happy with that cos we love the cobra hugger )
May 05, 2012
@Frantz: ''How deep a movie is depend about how shallow is the person watching it'' Are you serious? So, a pretty sophisticated, intelligent person comes along watching the shallowest of all movies. How on earth will that make it deeper? Will he/she be reading things into it which simply aren't there?
Just thinking here... deeply.
May 05, 2012
I think Frantz has a point. A person who is accustomed to finding meaning in everything can take even something very "light" to a deep place. That said, layering in shades of meaning and ambiguity is best done by the director. The script and its words can say one thing and the visuals can say another.
Deckard (and Ford) can say that he's a human, but if Ridley (and Gaff) say that he's a replicant (and they have the unicorn to prove it) then who's right?
There are all kinds of films that are *so deep* that they become impenetrable for vast swaths of people. [i]Inception[/i] is a "mild" example. [i]Tree of Life[/i] is hard core.
*Deep* is in the brain of the beholder.
Last night there were people on here (in a different thread, obviously) impugning the intelligence of people who like [i]Avatar[/i]. I wrote something that I didn't post, because those people were clearly *wasted* and it would have wasted my time to engage with them in the midst of that atmosphere, but here it is with the names removed (to protect the guilty and the innocent):
[quote=Yesterday sukkal almost][i]Srane, ma [tstxo a’awnaku]. Fko a por sunu Uniltìrantokx lu skxawng asnumìna nìtxan nì’aw stum nìfya’o a re’ori eltu keng ke lu. Fyape tsunslu fwa na Pìromisyiusì sìlronsem lu a relìri arusikx tsun keng sgnivä’i tslivam? Furia ayoengar muwolìntxu ngal futa ngaru tìkanu tse’atswosì lu fte mìftxele slivu pe’unyu seiyi irayo.
Set nìngay... furia Pìromisyiusì layatsu rel a fpeykìl fkot nìpxi, oe ngahu mllte, slä pelun ngata a fìtìkenong zene slivu Uniltìrantokx? Pelun ’uo alahe ke lu, natkenong Tìränsìformrr, fu StarWorzä Epìsot I, fu StarTìrek? Nìtor lu fayrel keteng. Fratìkanri le’aw, fra’u lu pxan fya’oìlä sneyä, kefyak? Pìromisyiusì lu txewm sì fpeykìl a fnerel tengkrr Uniltìrantokx lu ’eykefu a pum. Lu ngaya tìkin a lahea relur [u]leioae ke si[/u] nìpxi fte nga mìftxele ’ivefu ye, srak? Ngari alu tute nän tìkanu taluna fìtseng pamrel si reloteri arusikx tup inan pukit alu Tsam Tìmweysì, srak?[/i]
Yes, [name redacted]. Anyone who likes Avatar is nobody but a dimwit moron virtually without a brain in his head. How could he possibly even begin to understand a clever motion picture like Prometheus? Most sincere appreciation for pointing out to all of us that you have the smarts and perspective to arbitrate this matter.
Now seriously... I agree with you that Prometheus seems to be an especially thought-provoking film, but why does this counterexample have to be [i]Avatar[/i]? Why not [i]Transformers[/i], or [i]Star Wars Episode I[/i], or [i]Star Trek[/i]? These films are ultimately different. Isn't each worthy in its own way for a unique goal? Prometheus is a frightening and thought-provoking kind of movie while Avatar pulls on heartstrings. Is there really a need to [u]belittle[/u] another film for you to feel you've made your point about this? Are you as a person less intelligent because you're writing about some movie here instead of reading [i]War and Peace[/i]?[/quote]
My point with quoting that here now, is that *FOR ME* fundamentally [i]Avatar[/i] did not need to be *designed* by the director to be as "deep" as [i]Prometheus[/i] (or [i]Blade Runner[/i], or [i]Tree of Life[/i]) for me to extract considerable meaning out of it. I know another language because of it. I had an epiphany about human imagination while watching it due to the content of one very brief "throw away" scene in it. Would I personally give it a blanket classification or label as "deep"? No. But, *many* would.
There is definitely a class of film that I consider utterly unwatchable, FOR ME, but I'm certain LOTS of folks (chemically stimulated and otherwise) find those same pieces of entertainment *extremely* "deep."
May 05, 2012
I think Frantz has a point. A person who is accustomed to finding meaning in everything can take even something very "light" to a deep place. That said, layering in shades of meaning and ambiguity is best done by the director. The script and its words can say one thing and the visuals can say another.
Deckard (and Ford) can say that he's a human, but if Ridley (and Gaff) say that he's a replicant (and they have the unicorn to prove it) then who's right?
There are all kinds of films that are *so deep* that they become impenetrable for vast swaths of people. [i]Inception[/i] is a "mild" example. [i]Tree of Life[/i] is hard core.
*Deep* is in the brain of the beholder.
Last night there were people on here (in a different thread, obviously) impugning the intelligence of people who like [i]Avatar[/i]. I wrote something that I didn't post, because those people were clearly *wasted* and it would have wasted my time to engage with them in the midst of that atmosphere, but here it is with the names removed (to protect the guilty and the innocent):
[quote=Yesterday sukkal almost][i]Srane, ma [tstxo a’awnaku]. Fko a por sunu Uniltìrantokx lu skxawng asnumìna nìtxan nì’aw stum nìfya’o a re’ori eltu keng ke lu. Fyape tsunslu fwa na Pìromisyiusì sìlronsem lu a relìri arusikx tsun keng sgnivä’i tslivam? Furia ayoengar muwolìntxu ngal futa ngaru tìkanu tse’atswosì lu fte mìftxele slivu pe’unyu seiyi irayo.
Set nìngay... furia Pìromisyiusì layatsu rel a fpeykìl fkot nìpxi, oe ngahu mllte, slä pelun ngata a fìtìkenong zene slivu Uniltìrantokx? Pelun ’uo alahe ke lu, natkenong Tìränsìformrr, fu StarWorzä Epìsot I, fu StarTìrek? Nìtor lu fayrel keteng. Fratìkanri le’aw, fra’u lu pxan fya’oìlä sneyä, kefyak? Pìromisyiusì lu txewm sì fpeykìl a fnerel tengkrr Uniltìrantokx lu ’eykefu a pum. Lu ngaya tìkin a lahea relur [u]leioae ke si[/u] nìpxi fte nga mìftxele ’ivefu ye, srak? Ngari alu tute nän tìkanu taluna fìtseng pamrel si reloteri arusikx tup inan pukit alu Tsam Tìmweysì, srak?[/i]
Yes, [name redacted]. Anyone who likes Avatar is nobody but a dimwit moron virtually without a brain in his head. How could he possibly even begin to understand a clever motion picture like Prometheus? Most sincere appreciation for pointing out to all of us that you have the smarts and perspective to arbitrate this matter.
Now seriously... I agree with you that Prometheus seems to be an especially thought-provoking film, but why does this counterexample have to be [i]Avatar[/i]? Why not [i]Transformers[/i], or [i]Star Wars Episode I[/i], or [i]Star Trek[/i]? These films are ultimately different. Isn't each worthy in its own way for a unique goal? Prometheus is a frightening and thought-provoking kind of movie while Avatar pulls on heartstrings. Is there really a need to [u]belittle[/u] another film for you to feel you've made your point about this? Are you as a person less intelligent because you're writing about some movie here instead of reading [i]War and Peace[/i]?[/quote]
My point with quoting that here now, is that *FOR ME* fundamentally [i]Avatar[/i] did not need to be *designed* by the director to be as "deep" as [i]Prometheus[/i] (or [i]Blade Runner[/i], or [i]Tree of Life[/i]) for me to extract considerable meaning out of it. I know another language because of it. I had an epiphany about human imagination while watching it due to the content of one very brief "throw away" scene in it. Would I personally give it a blanket classification or label as "deep"? No. But, *many* would.
There is definitely a class of film that I consider utterly unwatchable, FOR ME, but I'm certain LOTS of folks (chemically stimulated and otherwise) find those same pieces of entertainment *extremely* "deep."
May 05, 2012
HAL yes ... and no ...i mean : a deep ( or sensible , wise ...whatever ) person cannot find deep things in Paris Hilton ...there arent ... but you can be sure that Paris Hilton will find deep things in a fashion cloth .
An example ...a few days ago an italian football player have died on the field for an heartstroke ... i did heard massive stupidities by football fans about "courage" , "pride " , "extreme sacrifice " ... he was just playng , maybe thinking about Prometheus ... so shallow people usually find great meanings where they arent .
May 05, 2012
You may, however, find things deep IN Paris Hilton. If you're brave enough to touch it that is.................... And I get a little tired of the word "hero" being thrown around. It's lost it's meaning in todays Internet age.......
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