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Arkadine

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The first reviews from France have arrived. I will try to get translations... http://www.reviewer.fr/breves/cinema/13441/prometheus-critiques-mitigees-apres-premiere-projection.html
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@BotswanaFan If Theron is underused, imagine what her part would have been like if she hadn't insist that the writers added a couple of scenes to make her character more layered!
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@spartacus and Arkadine: thanks so much for finding reviews and aiding in some translation. Good work bois. @nungabiz: i think you have a good understand of movie reviews. lol. I think I would be faaaareaked out if Prometheus got great reviews. I don't like critics (save Peter Travers--and he aint perfect either). I am certain RS did not cater to critics. He catered first and foremost to himself, and the story he wanted to tell, and then also to us. Let them say what they want. Ill take BH's and Arkadine's review much more seriously than any critics two pence. Especially from the french film scene. That being said, it's nice to know they aren't all crapping all over this work. That's encouragement enough for me. Only thing I'm worried about is Lindelof's involvement. He has proven he has some mad pansy-story-telling chops. Hopefully RS kept those in check. Sounds like he did. Thanks again guys :D
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@colonial soldier - awesome! I showed Alien to a girlfriend a couple of months ago, lights off, sound booming... she'd never seen it, it blew her mind. @Arkadine - Yes... Maybe she survives and we see more of her in the next one. But I suppose a great cameo can still be memorable - better to have too little screen time than too much. Harry Dean Stanton is barely in Alien but his death scene is absolutely priceless :)
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Was the screening. They almost killed us by stopping the film twice due to sound problems. Won't go into détails but the end of the movie is a joke plain and simple.
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Another positive review: http://www.unificationfrance.com/?20844-Prometheus-La-critique Prometheus : La critique par Frank Mikanowski First and foremost, we must admit that you speak of Prometheus without revealing all or part of the story is difficult but we'll try. The Prometheus project arose for us two promises: the promise of a return, that of Ridley Scott science fiction, who has already given us two absolute masterpieces of the genre, Alien and Blade Runner, a promise quality. And the promise, repeated the urge by the director himself to deliver a film with a different story in the saga of anhedral while keeping the DNA of Alien. And the fact is that for these two promises, the result is there. Evacuate immediately link with the Aliens. This is far from the main asset of the film. We feel that it was impossible to remove an item, it was necessary in one way or another include the feature film. I would not be as negative as my little friends, it's not bad, but the rest is so extraordinary that there is a risk that you're a little disappointed on that part. Remain on a quibble of criticism. Many events in this film will remain unexplained. Willingness to put the viewer on the wrong track? Editing of the film would have evacuated explanatory scenes? Bet on your intelligence to guess the missing elements? Anyway, if you go in groups, planning a small post viewing discussion session to see if you understood the same, it should be funny. And now that we have finished making our difficult, it's time to get out our dictionary of superlatives! Visually the film is a total massacre. In terms of design of vessels, objects, costumes, graphic design, creativity of the film is extraordinary. I can not imagine the amount of work necessary to achieve such a result. Side scenery, whether natural or studios, all competition to transport you into another world. Photography is also enhanced by a beautiful 3D, so beautiful, so logical, so enveloping that personally I totally forgot that the movie was in 3D (that's a compliment in my mouth). By cons if you expect a fair with lots of 3D objects that seeks to put out your eye, go your way. The cast is well chosen, even if two players, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fasseinder doing well over the lot. Caskets ideal for interpret roles superbly written, is full of nuances that these two are with us throughout the film. Curiously, the total humanity of the character of Raptor complete and meets the inhumanity of that of Fassbinder. The scenario also provided us some great moments of terror even if the film emerges primarily oppressive atmosphere. Prometheus is a great success despite the 2-3 reserve, a premium movie that amateur science fiction has not seen on the big screen for a long time. Enjoy it without hesitation.
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@astroboy Are you in France?
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And yet another positive review... http://www.sallesobscures.com/news-17398 Google Translate Ridley Scott is a director apart, as evidenced by the projection of this press Whit Monday for his latest film, Prometheus. Everyone expected the film on the Croisette but it was unfamiliar with the character who flatly refused. Here we are in the audience at the Gaumont Marignan, even where we had been invited to present the film in the presence of the cast a few weeks earlier. In space no one can hear you scream. A simple sentence to a monument of science fiction concocted by one of the greatest American filmmakers of our time: Ridley Scott. 33 years is the time it took to wait for this talented filmmaker gives not a sequel but a prequel to his masterpiece of anxiety: Prometheus. And the wait has not been idle on the contrary, this new film giving an incredible revival peps and the world of sf already shaken by the recent avatar of another visionary and genius of James Cameron's image. Prometheus is an invitation, as so aptly Noomi Rapace in the film, a departure to another world, an experience, a journey to the origins of man. Chaining with the missing Alien? Yes and no. If of course and we teach you anything, liaison with the Alien first name is obvious, in the dying minutes of the film, RS also gives us other avenues where we will not reply. But Prometheus is above all an atmosphere and in this we revel in the heavy atmosphere which settles on the film, the tension palpable, suspicions, questions, fears and fears. With Ridley Scott is not doing in the half-measure and the film leaves you no respite, 2 hours of pure entertainment with stunning picture. Rarely has more beautiful, more special effects push the limits of nconcevable if we return to the origins of Alien in 1979. A feast for the eyes and oreilels, because if the ship, sets, monsters will you take off the ward, what about the sound environment just daunting. Explosions, vessel noise, a sound environment and stunning musical theme sublime back from time to time in the film. The cast is very interesting, Michael Fassbender in the lead, a humanoid robot embodying the real thing. Noomi Rapace again demonstrates his talent, not to mention Charlize Theron or Idris Elba. Ridley Scott never does things by halves and gives a prequel to his film while using the 3D, which brings a 3D spurts but not real deep, very nice asset to this métrage.On did not reveal more about history that promise many surprises. Prometheus is the film that we waited a further descent into a world visceral science-fictionnesque grandiose. Nicolas LEPRETRE
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That last one's good - mentions something about the "links to Alien being very obvious", and the "dying minutes of the film taking us down avenues with no 'reply'". Sounds interesting.
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A so-so review here: http://auboudoirecarlate.forumgratuit.org/t4035-prometheus This guy says Charlize Theron is on screen only 10 minutes. Is that possible??? Notice Fariboles: I admit, I expected much of this film. First, this is a Ridley Scott, producer oh so talented Thelma and Louise, Gladiator and most recently Robin Hood, among others. Then Prometheus is presented as the prequel to Alien, one of the best sagas horrific science fiction of all time and is more qu'alléchant to know the origin of evil finally pursuing Aliens Ripley! In addition, it is served by a dream cast, Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Logan Marshall-Green or Charlize Theron. Finally, 6 months, we watch the teasers, pictures or information about the film, cleverly distilled here and there, the trailer is more than tempting and we even had a ghost station Prometheus on line 9 of the Paris metro . In short, Prometheus looks like "the" great movie to see the spring of the year. I expected so much I said ... probably too! Because yes, unfortunately, Prometheus is not far away madly brilliant, it's not bad, nothing more. The actors are doing really well, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender in the lead. The first plays with conviction and talent the role of a scientist believing that the question of the origin of life on Earth and who joins the expedition of Prometheus to finally find answers. The second is a robot with human appearance, who is fascinated by Lawrence of Arabia (it even copy his hairstyle and his manner of speaking, oops, we killed the sex appeal of Fassbender!) Devoid of emotions , feelings (at least in appearance). It is there to watch over the crew during the trip (they are immersed two years in stasis), wake them up once they arrive and help them in their quest. But he who was created as many questions arise about its existence, its place in the world that ordinary human. It plays perfectly, chilling and disturbing, it is really disturbing, one wonders if it is indeed a good guy or not throughout the film. The rest of the cast is doing so well, one wonders just why Charlize Theron offer only a part of 10 minutes, anyone could play his character! Photography and the images are superb. 3D is well used and integrated, we are caught in the film. The opening scene in particular is at once poetic, dreamlike horror and a bit while laying the foundations of the narrative we learn where and how life came to Earth. The problem is that about 130 000 million budget for the film, few have been distributed to writers. It is flat, desperately flat. One shudders but more trouble than fear. But where is this magic Alien? Where has the anxiety that is sought by going to a movie like this. The sequences follow one another without any real link between them, without deepening the story or that one knows more about the humanoids to the origin of the human species. And bam, in the last 20 minutes (the film lasts more than 2 hours anyway), we balance it all and quickly explains the birth of Aliens (and yes, that's when the prequel to the saga, should not forget it). Why make movies if that's wonderful that they are based on a scenario too low? In the end, fans of the genre may like, others will be bored and kindly in the end, everyone will ask: why all this?
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Yes, i am in France.
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Extremely positive: II will try to make a projection of these early reviews and try to figure out a percentage of positive reviews.. Help would be appreciated :-) http://www.effets-speciaux.info/article?id=682 Let's go straight into the heart of the matter: yes do not worry, PROMETHEUS is a great achievement. This is by far the prequel to the smartest and best realized that we have ever seen! By Pascal Pinteau Sir Ridley Scott has signed big movies, but also remembers with a shudder of staggering failures as LAME FEATURE (1996) and EQUAL TO ARMS (1997) or films that were unable to generate enthusiasm really like HANNIBAL (2001 ), following the low SILENCE OF THE LAMBS and THE Black Hawk Down (2001) which was not the great war film that was expected. Jumping from genre to genre film with an appetite that is to his credit, Ridley Scott and has accumulated successes and missed appointments (LEGEND, beautiful, but poisoned by a script that took the foot in its symbolism), and also punctuated by masterpieces that became "instant classics" as The Duellists, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, THELMA AND LOUISE, GLADIATOR and. For ten years now, Ridley Scott delivered great entertainment - A GREAT YEAR, AMERICAN GANGSTER, STATE LIES - but we were waiting with some impatience his new feature film, its new visual shock. He came in and called PROMETHEUS. What a great decision for not only designed a prequel to Alien, but open a much wider scope, full of present and future prospects! So, what could have been a pretext business becomes a real creation, a new journey, a new discovery. And the audience was worth the money! Of course, we will say nothing here of intrigue: the less you know, the more you appreciate the film. But what can you describe without revealing anything, this is the high quality of the script, which advances so unstoppable, delivering alternately mysteries and revelations until the very last frame. The new characters that we find here are as interesting and engaging as those of ALIEN and ALIENS, and probably even more original. The actors, directed well, are all impeccable. Noomi Rapace succeeds brilliantly Sigourney Weaver in the role of the heroine who refuses to admit defeat. It is also convincing in the register of the mild than in the strength that comes despair. Charlize Theron is terrific in a role that could have been ungrateful. The excellent Idris Elba portrays a captain much more sophisticated and determined than it looks, and Michael Fassbender plays brilliantly a robot that will enter the pantheon of science fiction. It is not soon forget David 8! Visually, the film is a treat. The images are beautiful, mysterious, always original, visual effects and perfect Ridley Scott uses beautifully the 3-D Relief to immerse ourselves in his brilliant nightmare. Original music by Marc Streitenfeld, inspired and devilishly effective, helps to tape the viewer to the screen. In short, PROMETHEUS is fantastic, achieved all its goals and often surpasses. Ridley Scott is definitely a great master of Science Fiction and the doors of the new world that opens here suggest fascinating adventures. Bravo Maestro!
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@astroboy Hello there, France :-) So Astroboy, can you tell us a little bit about your background: are u a sci-fi fan? What did you think about the film and what was the reaction of the audience? And for Christ sake what happened with that sound???
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Clapmag.com Score 8.5/10: http://www.clapmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2879%3Aprometheus-critique&catid=12%3Acritiques&Itemid=17 QuoteAnd Scott created the Aliens Object of worship, the SF milestone "horror," Alien had however been "abandoned" by its creator Ridley Scott to devote himself (and we forgive him) to another monument: Blade Runner. And better to let his creation in the hands of other major filmmakers: Cameron, Fincher and Jeunet, who never reach the intensity and timelessness of the first, will compete to create a unique franchise. Promise to return to his first masterpiece, Ridley Scott has long since made ??to his fans. He returns to his roots with this doubly Prometheus, since this is not the result but a prequel to the Alien. Despite thirty years, the filmmaker has lost none of his genius and takes care of his baby with a scene in permanent ecstasy. From the prologue, Prometheus hits hard, very hard. Visually in total harmony with its 3D. A rarity these days where the business case as it annoys stain. None of that here. The film is designed in three dimensions and marks after Avatar a new stage. The depth of each scene, travel in space or even this cascade pre-generic exploit the full potential of the technique providing the sensation of immersion in an advanced alien universe. Future technology is based on the hologram, the image projection in space (ie the frame) and Ridley makes his first ally. Idea necessarily already present in many SF movies but printed here as ever on film. The technical challenge is required and is an evidence as a new benchmark. The sense of flawless technique is reinforced by the mid-warrior theme haunting mid Mark Streitenfeld Prometheus which puts this in a sort of state of grace, the divine father back on his work. No need for dialogue, the camera wanders in a visual world even more successful perhaps than any previous album. Freedom of the filmmaker reflects a maturity, an extra breath of wisdom: Prometheus will not give in to the system constraints or requirements for the geeks, one suspects already. No need to cracking monsters (and for good reason), we are here to go back to basics: where is it? Where are these aliens? And perhaps the most interesting parallel here: can we and should we try to decipher this creative approach that led Ridley Scott to give birth to pure horror? With this Prometheus, the filmmaker appears to meet the analysis, questioning and harassment he has been to deliver a "no explanation" for his entire Alien mythology. Adventure, pure SF, action, his aura seems more existential and less "terror" than the previous. The quest is metaphysical, and everyone (viewers as characters) gives the direction he wants. On behalf of the filmmaker, it goes without saying that this is a prequel genesis. As if he wrote his Bible, Scott rewrites history, he is after all the founding father, the God. The intelligence here is not to give us explanations "turnkey" but enough to try to cast shadows and mystery around the characters, their origins to preserve the ambiguity of what has been done before. All truths are not good to hear ...
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Yeah it was from the Mist..... In terms of the prequel route well some are against and some are not, seems Ridley wanted to explore that route that Lindelof dislikes, and i guess thats what we will see in this movie, is more of how Lindelof does not like prequels because you know the outcome, compared to his stuff where you dont know the outcome of even his movies.... Ridley maybe should have gone, you know Lindelof your right, we need to tone it down, thank him for the idea and get someone else to change the story.. Myself Star Wars EP 1 was a disapointment because it was about some little kid, with lots of goofy moments.... Jar Jar anyone.... Star Wars EP4-6 set a very very high bar, and it would take a lot to try and beat or match it so yes for that reason a prequel is a dangerous thing as it could be disapointing and then again that was the case with any Alien film after Alien 3 Ridley could have made a Alien 5, or a direct prequel and you will always be up against it in terms of trying to reach the bar that Alien and Aliens set. I was not really expecting it to be vastly based on Alien Xenos, never wanted it to be, but by the same notion i think maybe the lack of any real link could also be the movies downfall. Ridley should have after Lindelof came aboard he should have scrapped the Alien Universe.... Thus same movie, same plot same events just we dont have Weyland, we dont have the Space Jockey.... They could go for Humanoids in suits just not simular to the SJ and a Ship thats maybe simular but not near enough the same. Ridley could have done this and then everyone would be able to view this movie as its own masterpeice.... i.e making a remake of "at the Mountains of Madness" rather than a Alien not so very much Prequel. Saying that.... Ridley only has himself to blame.... He has been talking about Derelict on LV 426, he has been harping on about that last 8 mins and a link to Alien, and saying the movie is Mommy meets Daddy and while Lindelof states its about the Progintor These comments build up the movie to tie in with Alien... Ridley could have said this.... "The movie is not about the Xeno, we will not show the Xeno or its Cycle, it will be only about the Engineers/Space Jockeys but you will be able to guess how the Xeno could have come from, from the other kinds of experiments and creations the Engineers take part in" He has said simular, but then does not clarify enough that it has no connection to Alien, so when he says the end will tie in to Alien well he has made a big commitment to having to please the fanboys.... Some of these France Screener viewers are not happy at the lack of any link... some said there is nothing...... While Ridley claims there would be..... and Alien fans would be pleased... Maybe Ridleys idea of a link is not what the fans would have wanted. Again i go back to the two people who claimed to has seen the movie 2 weeks ago in LA and what they said regarding the link.... One Said No Direct link, but we will notice simular things to Alien from Shaws Baby, and at the end of the movie we will see something that provides a link depending how you interpret it... They think movie is going to be either reboot or prequel to prequel and is left open. The second one said, Yes and No to the link, he said there are various unexplained things that we could draw as a link to Alien, its not direct links or anwers but clues that could help with the speculation/add wood to the fire.... He said that Shaws Baby is kind of simular to a Face Hugger, and said at the end of the movie their is something we would draw a better connection with the 1979 Alien but dont expect something very simular but we would see more simularity in it, than Shaws Baby when born is to a Face Hugger. Both claim the 3D is Amazing and the other effects and the story is good, only it has many many lose ends and leaves far more unanswered questions than it attempts to answer. So regarding not only Alien but this movie, we get a very vague clue, and then get a number of unanswered things in return. The one did say you can certainly tell the influences from Lindelof but did not bother him as he was a fan of Lost.... So i take it if your looking for a good link to Alien and/or your not a fan of how Lost leaves things to Mystrey then your gonna hate some parts of the movie...

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I think it is a bit dishonest of you guys to attack the critics that gave Prometheus a less than stellar evaluation and then say," hey this guy gave Prometheus a positive review so he must know what he is talking about." For all we know, we may hate the movie more than most if it fails to live up to the standards of people who were not even eagerly anticipating the film like we are. As a fan of Ridley Scott, I will refuse to cut him slack BECAUSE I know he is capable of creating films of the greatest quality. This is still my most anticipated film of the past decade and I will be rushing to the theater no matter what reviewers say. But, I will definitely take their opinions into account when forming my expectations.
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I am keeping from reading the reviews. Nothing against reviewers, I am just going to go in and watch. But I did get, from the thread, that the reviews are mixed. They were for Alien, too! Everything I have seen so far, though, leaves little doubt that this is going to be visually stunning (something Scott rarely fails at). It is the content that will make or break it for me (again, Scott's movies, when they fail, fail in this area, imo). So, we'll see. No expectations/
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I am perfectly bi-lingual, understanding French completely. I am reading the first-posted one (skipped the spoiler parts) in original French text and the people's reactions are not positive. They are saying it's flashy, confusing, strange, problems with the story/writing, targets a teenage audience and the characters are one dimensional. Maybe I'm just not fully awake yet?

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@ Svanya Flashy? Confusing? Hmm it sounds almost like this super famous television show that I used to watch. And wouldn't you know it, I think one of the writers of that same show was involved in this film! All kidding aside, I seriously hope Lindelof didn't completely ruin this film by doing what he usually does and setting up a bunch of scenes that are never explained at all. And for those of you saying you like questions, you can't seriously tell me you were satisfied with Lost.
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@ Svanya There seems to be a considerable amount of negative buzz on Twitter. Actually, I believe that, contrary to all expectations, the critics scores are going to be higher than the audience's
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@Drakeequation: Dead on, 100% correct. I have noticed that going on as well. So the one's who didn't like it don't know what they're talking about... but the ones who DID like it MUST know what they're talking about... And meanwhile not a single person on this forum has even seen the movie (!) EDIT: D'oh! And just as I wrote that, Astroboy posted his comment below o.O I'm not sure if it's a case of cognitive dissonance, or confirmation bias, or what... but seriously, what does that say about us here?

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