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People: Are you seeing this? First reviews from France!

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Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 11:32 AM
The first reviews from France have arrived. I will try to get translations... http://www.reviewer.fr/breves/cinema/13441/prometheus-critiques-mitigees-apres-premiere-projection.html
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Xenomorph 54

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:09 PM
@Deckard That's what observed in my last reply about the derelict...sometimes, when things are unexplained, they're better because they create a certain suspense/mystery...have you ever watched "Cube"? Excelent film. Mostly due to the mystery...it's about a group of men that wake up inside a structure/building made of several cube-shaped rooms...they don't know how did they get there, who planned it, nothing...they just know that they need to get out of there...it gets more and more interesting as you're watching... But, there are some basic things that need to be explained, like, for example, the engineer's reasons to attack earth. If they didn't explained them, then it would have been a really vacuous movie, don't you think so mate?
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids? They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:18 PM
I know I may be in the minority here, but I think that after returning to the franchise he left thirty years ago, Scott should have given the fans of Alien what they deserved: some answers. Otherwise its just him cashing in on the Alien fan base to ensure a bigger box office opening for his new science fiction movie.

Frantz

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:19 PM
ITs getting better .... still there must be a few flaws..but overall the vibe is getting better

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:25 PM
@BigDave That sucks. I don't know too much about Lindeloff. I know I liked what I watched of Lost but stopped watching it for some reason and I know what he's said in interviews for Pro. I have heard alot of complaints but didn't know he had a "habbit" of doing it. What are other examples?

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:27 PM
@Deckard he also worked on Star Trek (2009) and Cowboys and Aliens.

orangecat

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:27 PM
'Fortunately for the viewer, Ridley Scott is not a penguin.' Huh?

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:29 PM
THERE IS A KIND OF SPOILER IN THIS POST! NO SPECIFICS THOUGH! @Xenomoroph64 Yes, I've seen Cube. Pretty good. Also, I simply gave in on another forum and pretty much read every spoiler I could. Don't think it'll "ruin" the film for me. In fact, I know now that I WILL LOVE IT as pretty much all the stuff I wanted to happen does plus all other kinds of great stuff too. With that said I can say that the reason behind the engineer's wanting to attack earth IS explained so rest easy there.

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:32 PM
@Drakeequation...What questions were left unanswered or explained bad in those films? That's what I meant. BigDave said he has a habbit or track record of leaving things ridiculously open or not being able to tie loose ends properly. I was asking about those instances besides Lost. I've seen Star Trek and Cowboys and Aliens. I liked Star Trek very much and thought CAA was ok. Don't remember any of these bad characteristics in those.

Drakeequation

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:37 PM
@ Deckard You really didn't see anything unexplained in those films? Like why an advanced civilization has to come to earth to steal gold from cowboys or why the black holes formed from dying suns magically take ships back in time instead of tearing them apart at a subatomic level like everything else?

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:38 PM
For some reason I can't edit the post above the post above this one if that makes sense. When I go to edit it there's just a bunch of gibberish. What I wanted to say is that the spoilers I read may be BS. With that said though, if they aren't, this film is GOING TO FUCKING ROCK! I didn't get the feeling they were BS but they could very well be. I'll see soon I guess.

85

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:40 PM
Well if Lindelof worked on Abrams Star Trek then that's a plus for me, I loved that movie. I'm sure there must be a central storyline that the film follows but I'm guessing there are lots of small side plots in there leave interpretation open to the viewer. For example lets say the snake/cobrahugger creature, which has a head remarkably like the Weyland logo, is a direct result of David dipping his insignia'd finger in the black goop then that would kinda work for me, suggest a lot of possibilities re Xeno creation. I'm not saying it is but if that's the type of ideas they my be sowing then I would get it.

wesen

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:42 PM
@Deckard There is a difference between unexplained and "Lostian" lol. The definition of Lostian is: piling up red herrings left and right, claiming every detail is important - psyche! It was all about the characters. Ummm, fighting for survival on an isolated island doesn't give you a rich enough backdrop for conflict and character development? Lol. But if it's unexplained things a la Cube, the fountain, Donnie Darko and other movies mentioned I will be happy. Most of the times when the mystery is explained it loses its appeal (and the explanation ends up being ridiculous). Still looking forward to it.

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:43 PM
@Drake TBH I only saw them once. Didn't notice at the time. That's why I was asking. But I do realize that in some movies you just have to go with the flow and suspend disbelief. Hell, especially in STAR TREK and a film called COWBOYS AND ALIENS. Those kinds of unaswered questions are, imo and estimation, totally different than the ones which will be in Prometheus.

Twitch

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:46 PM
I feel personally that the avp stuff was soo piss poor that R.S. almost had to take the film in different direction and if he gave the audience more of the same he would be torn to pieces for doin just that.

wesen

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 5:47 PM
@Deckard Agreed. When I first saw the trailer for Cowboys and Aliens I thought it was a joke ;D

John D.

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:13 PM
Okay, somebody's obviously lying, because I just checked with my sources and it turns out Ridley Scott [b]IS[/b], in fact, a penguin.

Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:18 PM
@ Orangecat, @John D. Manchot also means one handed man.. I guess it means that Ridley Scott is not clumsy or unskilled :-)

craigamore

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:25 PM
First off...all this concern AND prejudgment based on reviews is beginning to irritate me.......Drakeequation...you're making a lot of negative assumptions about this move with no basis other than what a few reviews have said and that I find disturbing and, frankly, qutie hilarious considering the history of [i]Alien[/i] to begin with...at first, the original was crapped on left and right as being a run of the mill disappointment in its earliest reviews...and as to this that you siad, "but I think that after returning to the franchise he left thirty years ago, Scott should have given the fans of Alien what they deserved: some answers. Otherwise its just him cashing in on the Alien fan base to ensure a bigger box office opening for his new science fiction movie. " I find this bit particularly sad, "Scott should have given the fans of Alien what they deserved: some answers." None of us is OWED or DESERVES anything.....It's a movie..it's his movie and as the last pertinent individual PRIMARILY responsible for the original, he has every right to decide what questions to answer and WHAT WE DO NOT [b][i]NEED[/i][/b] TO KNOW........This sense of entitlement is more irritating to me than just about anything...I'm as big a fan of [i]Alien[/i] as any of you will find and I'm going into [i]Prometheus[/i] with an open mind as I would with ANY film...as a member of the audience I owe that to any fimmaker... Anyhooo....there is one bit from one of these reviews that I find rahter fascinating: "I was saying on Twitter (the translation of my tweets was not totally good) that the Ridley Scott film, written by Lindelof (LOST, don't forget LOST !) was about... A love story. Well, not a love story... But a Love History. Have you ever felt in love with someone and not being able to understand why you did have these feelings ? Not being able to understand your own body about that ? Your own emotions ? That's the parable of this film. And what if I told you that the one you love doesn't love you anymore... What if I told you that the one you love plan to destroy you... What if I told you that the one you love plan to replace you by someone else... Have you ever had these feelings ? THIS is the film is about. Anyone else feel as though or Think he's refering to the love between God and man and man being replaced by his creator?...interesting....

85

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:29 PM
Well it's just a film eh chaps? :) Some might find this youtube vid interesting/amusing. Quite a nice idea on the plot. http://youtu.be/B9cDyJXhZ4k

GirlWithAPulseRifle

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:32 PM
Thanks everyone for sharing and posting early reviews of the film. I'm really excited for this movie more so just to have something tha actually looks amazing come out in theaters. I'm going in with an open mind and just enjoying the experience not taking anything too seriously. Honestly, there have been reviews on past flicks that have come out lately that gave good ratings and i thought was crap. Being a video store girl for six yrs i've seen or ignored alot of crap the studios have been throwing out to make $$$. Bottom line i love sci-fi and i love horror. I love David Lynch films and Dario Argento and if its a lil different and leaves stuff unanswered i'd luv it all the same.

nuthugger

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:41 PM
Anyone bitching about this film WITHOUT HAVING SEEN IT should maybe just go see Battleship, MIB3, Lockout, John Carter... you know, real quality sci-fi films.

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:43 PM
@Craig...Yes, yes and yes. And especially yes to the last part. It's about Shaw's love for "god", "god's" love-or lack thereof I think-for us, Weyland's love-AND lack thereof for his CREATIONS and his creations love-or lack thereof for him and all the repercussions for all this love or lack thereof. I promise that's exactly what it's about. Among many, many other things.

MarcoBot1234

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:45 PM
Honestly I think you guys are overreacting. The movie did get good reviews but not everybody is gonna like it. Blade Runner did awful in box office and initially wasnt received well at all. Look at it now, it's a benchmark in sci fi movie history. It's inevitable for some ppl not to appreciate Ridley Scott's subtleties and attention to detail. If everybody (the average movie goer) goes to see the movie and love it chances are the hardcore fans (aka "us") will probably hate its mainstream-ness.... We want something unique something different and most ppl prefer a straight foreward cliche storyline So watch the movie and judge it for yourself.. And stop tripping balls ppl :P

Deckard_B26354

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:47 PM
@nuthugger...Man, Lockout was soooo shity. "Die Hard meets Blade Runner" my f*&king a$$! Not that I ever put an ounce of faith in that statement. Actually, the fact that that was a tagline for the film was a HUGE red flag that I was completely retarded not to notice. I'm a big Escape from New York fan though and saw some parallels and was suckered in.

Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:51 PM
Anyway I understand Drakeequation hardcore fandomeness... I really cannot predict how I am going to feel about the Blade Runner sequel when it's finally realesed, because that is my favorite movie ever. I hope it is not called Blade Runner 2: they should come up with a different title, but then again that's the creators' prerogative.

DrunkRuedi

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:58 PM
@craigamore. Exactly because it's a movie people feel 'entitled' to satisfying entertainment. As much as we all are openminded to it and want to see unexpected, we want this unexpected to form a coherent story not just a mix of random episodes

Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 6:58 PM
@85 yeah, I watched it before... it was clever fun... very well edited

SaintsSinphony

MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 10:10 PM
@Craigmore Yeah, that is what I think exactly, it is about love of God and what you would feel if you found he hated you, didn't want you to exist. Man, from what I've heard from this film and read (some I wish I hadn't but oh well) this movie is deep and if you are just looking for an answer to why the original alien is made, or where did the original jockey come from and nothing more you may be disappointed. This movie is deep and now with the reviews out I want to see it so much more.

Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 12:37 AM
Last review to hit the web (A Positive one) 3 out of 5 stars http://braindamaged.fr/2012/05/29/prometheus-la-genese-dun-mythe/ Google translate: There are movies that disappoint highly anticipated, other than the height, and others that are perplexing. Prometheus is part of the latter. Prequel to be a lot of talk, especially its director, Ridley Scott, who is back in the wonderful world he has imagined with horror H.Giger for one of the sagas of the biggest cult science fiction: Alien . Prometheus is a good entertainment for fans of the genre that's still a bit frustrating. Genesis When Ridley tackles a prequel - even if it defends the title, Prometheus is none the less a prequel - the director takes the word in Genesis literally. The genesis of the creature, but also the genesis of man on Earth. Prometheus provides the director with a sci-fi, which can take or not belonging to the saga, surfing on the origins of man and the human condition. Yes because the genre of science fiction, originally, before eyeful of a sudden the viewer of spacecraft explosions and other lasers, aims to question the human race, its evolution and its derivatives, for warn thanks to these metaphors. Prometheus is meant in that vein, with a feature film in impeccable aesthetics and questions of philosophical and mystical orders to no end. Mysticism, an obsession known director. Issues that appeal to early viewing to eventually exhaust the answers so late in arriving. A majority of course remain unanswered. Starting with its title referring to the Greek myth of Prometheus, driven from Olympus for stealing fire from the gods for the benefit of humans. The expedition's ship as it does the myth of throwing light on the existence of man and his creation, before explaining the origins of the Alien creature. A quest to make sense, curiosity and a search on the edge of the universe that will never be fully satiated or explained. And it is this research that will lead to loss of the crew and especially to give birth to the mythical creature of the Saga which is obviously due to the Earthlings, as after the opening of Pandora's box. As so aptly Dr. Shaw, Prometheus' gives birth to death. " Naomi ... Sigourney ... All! The story as was Ridley, happens in 2085, 30 years before Sigourney, finally, the story of Ellen Ripley. The plot revolves around the jockey as promised space, be a giant sitting on a chair in what appeared to be a technological base (which is actually a technological base). The seat in question is of course in this prequel, as well as those famous giant, presented as the key to our existence. Without revealing more, these giants have all died as a result of something indescribable and their dead bodies lie at the bottom of a cave on the edge of space on the planet LV-223. In this prologue, Noomi Rapace embodies Professor Elizabeth Shaw, an anthropologist / archaeologist / doctor / captain of the expedition on a little-experienced and very sure of herself taken desperate to make sense of life and above all believe or not the existence of a higher power trying to prove or disprove. While the character seems pretty smooth at first, soon the mimicry with Ellen Ripley feels, especially during a scene enough gore involving a foreign body and a surgical procedure. Naomi thinks it's Sigourney Weaver, whether intended or not. Some of his scenes border on the remake and reproduce exactly the same atmosphere as a result. A character clearly modeled on that of Sigourney both in his writing or playing the actress. Charlize Theron's character is not better, it is virtually absent and most underutilized. Sadness for an actress to gauge potential and recognized. Only Michael Fassbender brings some depth to the film. In the shoes of an android in service of the expedition, the character, supported by a flawless performance of the actor, is the most work, complex, mysterious and especially touching, despite some inconsistencies scriptwriting. A character that is the major points in this plot philosophical, like the creation and purpose, in a coldly analytical own a robot, which still seems to want to look like its creators. An open world On location and legendary artist HR Giger quite breathtaking photography and a faultless plans, ensures that its blockbuster role in bringing dazzle the viewer. Cool colors and dark contrast with touches of warm colors offer a very discreet aesthetic peculiar to this prequel, which is not one. A journey to a universe worked, served in a natural and unobtrusive 3D, which would still be useless on certain scenes. Prometheus is a movie a little hybrid between genius and the draft, a prequel of prequel that gives way (if the box office below) to a suite that would address a multitude of unanswered questions and may finally offer a thrill worthy of Alien The eighth passenger. Because even if Prometheus scares, it's easy playing with the mystery and the feeling of confinement. Prometheus is none the less a good movie that allows viewing, without trying to compare it to the saga. Anyway we finally have a semblance of explanation, at least we know how the creature is born, for the rest, travel and pregnancy, we will perhaps in a sequel, since the film leaves the door open for possibility of another reboot.

Kane77

MemberOvomorphMay-29-2012 2:46 AM
@Deckard..oh man, was lockout shitty..first I thought, nice another guy pearce appeareance after[i] seeking justice[/i]. NOO. just shit. Beginning to end shit. boring dumb character. I didnt even THINK of escape from NY..
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