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Prometheus explained (spoilers)

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AlexB1001

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 4:45 AM
I think I've started to gather a rough idea of just what was going in the film. I've spoken to quite a few people who seemed to not have the faintest clue what was going on, so I'll try to summarise the plot in the easiest way possible: 1) The 'engineers' or 'space jockeys' are a technologically advanced species that are established on multiple planets and have ships capable of interstellar travel. 2) The engineers possess a very powerful chemical, which we'll call 'the black goo'. This substance has severe DNA altering/mutating qualities, capable of either changing someone's DNA molecules so rapidly they physically break down into the molecular level or even mutating their DNA so quickly they 'evolve' into a new life form. 3) The engineers may use the black goo as a biological weapon, but this is not likely to be its primary use. As seen in the film, one engineer arrives at a planet (in this case a lifeless earth), and uses the black goo on himself, allowing his whole body to be degraded into DNA molecules which then spread out into the sea, causing the beginnings of life on our planet. Why do they do this? As Holloway stated to David on the synthesis of androids, 'we made you because we could'. Probably creation for creation's sake. Playing at gods. 4) The concept of 'playing at gods' is taken further as the engineers monitor their creations, the most intelligent of which (and the ones who have evolved to most resemble their creators) - humans - worshipping them as gods. As to why the star maps are present in all the different cultures, I am not going to bother to theorise why. There needs to be information from Ridley Scott as to why - there is no real evidence to suggest whether they wanted humans to eventually leave earth to contact them or not. In addition, there is no evidence in the film as to why the star maps lead humans to that specific moon, which was simply an installation as opposed to a 'home planet' of the engineers. More information or a sequel is needed here. 5) Once the Prometheus crew explore the engineer ship, it becomes clear that something has happened in the ship itself to kill off most of them, with the exception of one who has entered into 'deep sleep' (maybe to avoid the conflict that killed off the rest of the crew, or maybe to ensure at least one engineer was alive to greet the humans - more on that later). This is one of the most grey areas of the film - based on the evidence we do have I would conjecture that for some reason some of the black goo was spilled long before the humans came, and somehow the 'aliens' (xenomorphs) we all know and love (or mutated life forms resembling them and their life cycle) developed on the ship, killing the engineer crew (the dead ones had holes in their abdomen, a uniquely xenomorph trait). On top of that there was a mural of a xenomorph inside the ship. This means the engineers must have at least been aware that the black goo, when associated with them, could give rise to the xenomorphs. Once again, more information needed. 6) For a reason (change in atmosphere caused by the opening of the door?) that is not directly explained, when the Prometheus crew enters into the chamber with the giant head statue, the black goo is released. A few worm like animals (either accidentally brought by the human crew, or just native to the moon) come in contact with it, and the way they specifically are affected is by being turned into the cobralien/hammerpede/vaginasnake. Bear in mind this creature is a dead-end in the film. It kills the researcher by burrowing down his throat, but that's it. It's not a facehugger. It is in no way related to the xenomorph or giant squid seen later in the film. Just an example of the extreme transforming powers of the goo - and a clue as to the goo's association with the xenomorph, since it apparently can turn animals into creatures than generally resemble facehuggers (both the cobralien and giant squid had pale fleshy 'skin' and weird vagina-like mouths). 7) There are only two humans in the film directly interacting with the goo - Fifield and Holloway. Fifield is exposed to the goo after he falls down because his helmet is sprayed with acid (another point of proof that the black goo can mutate animals into xenomorph like beings - remember that the xenomorph 'bleeds' acid). What happens to Fifield is sort of ambiguous, but he seems to mutate into a sort of ultra-mutant-human intent on slaughtering everything in sight. What ultimately happens to Holloway after David slips the goo in his drink is not shown - he is flamed before it is revealed. Many are theorising that he is breaking down like the engineer at the beginning, but I am not too sure about this. I think it is fully possible that he eventually would have been twisted into the Fifield-like mutant form. Or maybe he would just die. I think it is supposed to be clear that the black goo affects everyone (maybe even members of the same species) differently, although there is a general 'xenomorph-like' theme between most of the changes it causes. 8) A Holloway undergoing black-goo-caused DNA mutation has sex with Shaw. In my opinion, his infected sperm fertilises Shaw's egg, and the resulting fertilised egg is very rapidly mutated by the effects of the black goo into the giant squid she is forced to self-abort. As to the direct life cycle mutated Holloway --> Shaw --> giant squid, it's not totally clear, but doesn't really need to be. Once again the general theme is that the black goo is capable of a lot, and is the root of the xenomorphs. 9) This is where it gets tricky. As I stated earlier, there was one living engineer in 'deep sleep' on the ship. I'm not going to talk about Weyland's appearance; firstly, I thought it was pointless and silly, and secondly, it's pretty self-explanatory (dying tycoon seeks out alien race in an ultimately futile search for immortality). The reason the engineer attacked the crew seems to me because there was a sort of 'you have become too intelligent for your own good' vibe going on there. Maybe the engineer was insulted by the fact the humans, their creation, created their own life. Or maybe the humans simply were not supposed to ever contact the engineers at any point. Theories galore, but no hard evidence for this. 10) Now the point at which I get the most confused is why the engineer suddenly decides to take off and head for earth. The engineers seemed to have been planning this, because the holographic representations of the rest of the crew seemed to be a programmed event that would allow any number of engineers (in this case one) take off and head to another planet. I just can't shake off the fact that the engineers seemed to have planned the humans finding this moon - beyond the star maps, why would one engineer put himself into sleep and just wait for someone to wake him up? And why suddenly decide that earth of all places must be his destination? David conjectured in the film that they were heading to earth to use the black goo... To me this reeks of a sort of 'cycle'; go to a lifeless planet, make life using the black goo, wait till life gets intelligent, lead life to an installation/base, once it gets there return to the planet, use more black goo...? But where do the xenomorphs fit into this? The fact that there was a mural of one on the wall means that they are somehow linked with engineer culture… 11) In the strongest link between Prometheus and Alien, the surviving engineer eventually gets claimed by the giant squid (well – giant facehugger, since that’s what it essentially is). This is the strongest link between Prometheus and Alien, and proof that theengineers are intimately linked to the creation of the xenomorphs, since a creature looking very much like one bursts out of the engineer’s chest at the end. The cliffhanger the film was left on (Shaw attempting to go find the engineers) suggests that the sheer amount of grey areas in this film are hopefully going to be revealed, maybe in a sequel. I, for instance, don’t care about the specifics of how the worm was transformed into the cobralien (it is sci-fi, after all), but as this post has shown, we really know nothing about the engineers, their intentions, and the fact that the film was a prequel-of-sorts to Alien proves that the xenomorphs play a bigger part in the engineer civilization (the mural!) than it may seem. If there’s any ‘unanswered question’ in this post which was actually revealed, please let me know, otherwise whaddya guys think?
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soundwaves

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:10 AM
great post, AlexB1001 ! I, for one, don't bother too much about not answered questions in Prometheus ... rather the "silly" way the protagonists ignore some essential things happening during the movie. Many were mentioned in other 1000 threads. at some points I really don't see an "internal logic" (opposed to some other posters who refer to the movie's stringency) ... Elizabeth Shaw kicks some crew members asses after she awakes from sedation .. escapes to the med-pod .... "gives birth" to a squid-like being ... an extraterrestrial life form .. nobody cares about that for a good portion of the rest of the film? Nobody wants to "examine" this alien life form? Even not David? just out of couriousity? and then, out of nowhere ... this huge facehugger appears ? gimme a break .. yeah, just forgot ....there was the Engineer to be talked to !! What I also don't get is why they ignored the complete "WMD" installation and always got into the first "pyramid/temple" thing .. and why would the black goo escape the vases in the "big-head" room .. and not in this huge cargo-style room ... didn't the crew members also change the atmosphere there? I mean .. if their appearance on this moon caused a devastating storm outside this installation .. why ould it make a difference inside the "temple" if they are in one room or another? Or did I miss something and ALL vases leaked the goo? just saying .... thanks !

AlexB1001

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:24 AM
I thought one of the biggest flaws in this film was indeed the lack of reaction to some of the events. Most of all no one seemed to care that highly intelligent (as well as less intelligent) alien life had actually been discovered! But indeed, I thought it was very silly how Shaw deems it pointless to tell a single crew member that she just cut a frickin' alien out of her stomach! That's a bit of lazy scriptwriting, allowing the squid thing to be just 'forgotten' about plot wise until the final sequence. As for where they went within the ship, I think once again that was just a plot-driven choice (go into the 'cockpit' area so the engineer can try to fly away, go into the 'temple' room so the black goo can be found). As to why the black goo was only stored in the weird temple/big-head room is anyone's guess - there literally is no explanation in the film for the 'floor plan' of the ship. As for why the black goo leaked, I'm pretty sure there only were ampoules/vases in the temple room. Opening the door changed the atmosphere somehow and caused the vases to leak the goo. As to whether that was an unintended consequence or meant to happen (a sacrificial room for the engineers? A trap for the humans?) is once again a question that the film provides no real answers for. I think the best thing to do is wait for (1) a sequel or (2) a director's cut with enough 'special features' that these questions are actually cleared up. Of course I'm happy for some things to be left unsaid, but the whole engineer storyline is not remotely understandable at the moment.

thefacehead

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:29 AM
Amen to that Alexb1001. I am totally open to leaving unaswered questions but not when they are key to the plot and character motivation plus arcs.

Hancakes

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:39 AM
Maybe they were on their way to earth before we turned up. It could be that they were making a stop at the installation prior to continuing their journey. Whilst at the planet all hell broke loose hence the killing of the SJ's. But we seem to forget, we never get to see what killed the SJ's in the first place. We seem to have arrived at a common ground that the ‘Black Goo’ provides a catalyst to have an impact on cells. With regards to the ancient murals there are six points of reference that the figure points too. It is only our assumption that we have arrived at the correct location. We’re in the neighbourhood just not on the same road eg LV-426.

Taz

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:46 AM
on 7) I think the goo mutates DNA to share xeno like characteristics(based on fitfields strength,agility and weird flexibility outside the ship). on 10) The engineer in opening scene is seen,but a different ship to the derelicts,something to ponder.

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 5:57 AM
i imagined, that the sleeping engineer was sleeping when shit happened, and that's why he survived. as for why he's still sleeping? nobody left to wake him. just my thoughts

BigDave

MemberDeaconJun-05-2012 6:09 AM
There is a lot of lose ends.... I think because the movie was trying to be too clever, and very bold but ultimately the amount of things they tried to fit in the movie was too much for a 2 hour movie and hence why things had to be rushed... Also some stuff has Lindelofs fingerprints all over it, thats why i was worried as with Lost they come up with some good stories and plots and ideas then leave no end explanation to them and then dont even touch upon them.... I think if Scott had taken on board Lindelofs ideas like he did with some of Spaits but then he and another director/writter got on board we could have had a much better movie..... Ridley Scott and Peter Jackson for Prometheus 2 please ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconJun-05-2012 6:18 AM
As far as explanations.... Well there was so so many stuff, that was left open to interpretation we really cant figure a lot out, as every person will have a different view on different elements... SPOILERS FOR THOSE NOT SEEN MOVIE.... - - - Some people had major complaints of the lack of Alien links... other thought they was too much..... I understand why some of the scenes was done, for example if the Engineer got up and walked to another ship and tried to leave for Earth but crashed on LV426 this would have explained Alien. And made the movie a Prequel.... now i think that would have been best thing to do as it closes the door as we could assume that the Xeno ish Organism is then responsible for Alien.... But doing that would not allow Ridley to explore that creature if he intended it as a new franchise or a reboot of the Xeno if you would. The way it ended leaves it open for Weyland Corp etc to send out a second mission to discover what happened to Prometheus and then come across that Xeno Organism. Also some moaned about how fast Shaws Baby grew.... well look how it expanded in her belly, at that rate it would have grown very fast. Well it was not like 30 min, because thats movie time it actually could have been like 12 hours odd in reality. And just like those who did not get how the Chestburster burst out of the Engineer..... it only took 5 mins... Yes in the movie..... but we dont know if from when Shaw left the Engineer and after he got Cuddled.... to when Shaw left on the other Derelict was like 30 mins.... And then that last scene of the Chest Burster could have happened hours and hours after Shaw left with David... - - - - END SPOILERS.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Spydymanx

MemberOvomorphJun-05-2012 6:24 AM
Some good concepts. Scott has been on record as saying the idea is more to do with questions than answers. There are heavy religious overtones in the movie and I think, ultimately, after all the Prometheus films are done, even bigger questions will need answering. What's to say the engineer at the beginning of the movie wasn't under instruction from a higher species to sacrifice himself in the name of creation? He was left on his own and the ship (which clearly was not a SJ) took off. This could suggest the engineers are 'devotees' of a higher being or 'alien'...He is dressed in robes after all. Murals on walls do suggest they 'prey' or 'believe' in a higher species...why xenomorph murals is anyone's guess though. Are they the higher being!? Anyway I enjoyed the movie. I think the stupidest moment was when they accidentally found the structure on their first dive into the atmosphere without any scans before. Totally dumb.

Wretchefthrash

MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 1:27 AM
My thoughts are that the space jockeys made life on earth so that they could eventually test the strength of their bio weapons. When awoke the one was right back to work on the mission. That being to test the xenomorphs as weaponry and how they could eradicate life on a planet.
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