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MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 1:57 AMI believe that the strong emphasis on the word Genesis in many of the online materials means something. While searching the internet for info about sumerian culture I noticed many things but the most striking is the ancient astronaut interpretation of the 6th chapter in the book of Genesis.
I believe that, without ever saying it, and without suggesting it in the film, the ‘Space Jockey’ race are the Nephillim, spoken of in the less adulterated, earlier versions of the bible. The online materials and marketing campaigns have sent die hard fans on an epic search for these kinds of materials, suggesting that what is perceived as jumping character motivation and plot devices could actually make sense if supplemented by research of such origin theories. Consider this section taken from the Ancient Astronauts page of Wiki.
Book of Genesis and Book of Enoch
One interpretation is that the Nephilim are the children of the "sons of God" and "daughters of humans", although scholars are uncertain.[32] The King James Version replaces the term "Nephilim" with "giants".
The first part of the apocryphal Book of Enoch expands and interprets Genesis 6:1. It explains that the "sons of God" were a group of 200 "angels" called "Watchers". Against God's wishes, these Watchers descended to Earth to breed with humans. Their offspring are the Nephilim, "giants" who "consumed all the acquisitions of men". When humans could no longer sustain the Nephilim, they turned against humanity. The Watchers also instructed humans in metallurgy and metalworking, cosmetics, sorcery, astrology, astronomy and meteorology. God then ordered the Watchers to be imprisoned in the ground. He created the Great Flood to rid Earth of the Nephilim and of the humans who had been given knowledge by the Watchers. However, to ensure humanity's survival, Noah is forewarned of the oncoming destruction. Because they disobeyed God, the book also describes the Watchers as "fallen angels".[33]
Some ancient astronaut theorists believe that this story is a historical account of extraterrestrials visiting Earth. In their interpretation, the "angels" are extraterrestrials and were called Watchers because their mission was to observe humanity. Some of the extraterrestrials disobeyed orders; they made contact with humans, cross-bred with human females and shared knowledge with them. The Nephilim were thus half-human-half-extraterrestrial hybrids.[34]
Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman argue that modern UFOs carry the fallen angels, or offspring of fallen angels: the Nephilim of Genesis, who have now returned. They believe it was this interbreeding between the angels and humans that led to what they call "the gene pool problem." Noah was perfect in his "generations," that is "Noah's genealogy was not tarnished by the intrusion of fallen angels. It seems that this adulteration of the human gene pool was a major problem on the planet earth."[35]
Von Däniken also suggests that the two angels who visited Lot in Genesis 19 were not angels, but ancient astronauts. They may have used atomic weapons to destroy the city of Sodom. In any case, the otherworldly beings acted as if there was a time set for Sodom's destruction. Von Däniken questioned why God would work on a timetable and why an "infinitely good Father" would give "preference to 'favorite children,' such as Lot's family, over countless others."[36]
Marc Dem completely reinterprets Genesis by claiming humanity started on another planet and that the God of the Bible is an extraterrestrial.[37]
Consider also this interpretation of the god Prometheus: In the Western classical tradition, Prometheus became a figure who represented human striving, particularly the quest for scientific knowledge, and the risk of overreaching or unintended consequences.
Shaws, actions while seemingly stupid, are meant to pin her as a real life manifestation of Prometheus.
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Wayne
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 3:10 AMWould love to hear a dumbed-down hillbilly explanation of the plot (like the rest of us are posting) -from an obviously intelligent guy. Some of these clowns are still asking how the space jockey got back to his seat for Ripley to find him!!!
Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-17-2012 7:58 AMGenesis - first book of bible
Exo-genesis - the idea of deliberate seeding of a world by aliens.
Point of putting 'sacrifice scene" as scene 1, with no dialogue or text or a zoom in from space showing it to DEFINTELY be Earth (Sun, moon Saturn type of points of reference)...
To let people's preconceptions play into their interpretations of the film. From there on people will dig deep into detail of Suemrian, Christian, UFO stuff... looking for the 'why' of it all.
If, however, you make no assumptions and draw no conclusions other than what is DEFINITELY on the screen, you will spare yourself that futile search.
Question everything, and see where the alternative explanations could lead.
quick hillbilly summary.
Fall for tricks in scene 1 on -
Oh, yeah, they made us.
Odd they're dead...
Oh the two guys who expressed skepticism are the first to die. for doubting and violating Leviticus 21:20 (you spectacle wearing doubter !!!) kileld by a snake from genesis too. Wow. Praise the Lord.
Why are the angels all dead?
Oh, one's sleeping.
Oh, he's angry at us for trying to play god and seek immortality.
He's gonna wipe us all out. He was supposed to do that 2000 years ago, when Jesus was here, but there was an accident and he had to sleep... (cos' y;know angels are like that. )
He considers Weyland's request blasphemy and his android an abomination. He smites them.
Now it's Armageddon... oh, wait the true christian believer has intervened to save us from the wrath, and her miracle birth offspring in turn has saved her, before sprouting another demon for her to tackle in the sequel.
But she's got that cross so she's gonna be fine.
Or, the skeptical line of enquiry could lead you to a Dr. Frankenstein plot.
Okay so there's aliens... on some planet, somewhere, not sure when this is. Oh he's dead. That's odd.
Oh, look a MONOLITH... Kubrick liked them, put on in 2001 for the monkeys to evolve next to didn't he?
Oh, scientists think we were visited by aliens... sure the cave paintings suggest that.
Oh, she's just said that they MADE us... the cave paintings do not indicate that. Where did she get the idea from? It's not like she was watching scene 1 or anything.
Oh, two other scientists are saying 'bullshit' I like them, they seem smart, they'll be useful.
Oh, they were dumb and got killed. Was that guy smoking weed? Sheesh, that would explain why he petted a freakin' space cobra!
Oh, those guys have the same DNA as us. And the planet seems to have air to suit us... and yet the big guys can breathe outside where we can't.
It's almost like all those trips to earth might have been about bringing humans to their lab. Iwonder if these big guys with our DNA were turned into space slaves by some nasty space version of the KKK, who have Xenomorphs on a leash to keep the slaves in line....
I wonder if he was supposed to fetch more humans for the lab before he went into stasis.
Oh, this guy Weyland seems to think the big grey guys are gods and will give him eternal life.
This should be an interesting conversation.
Why's the big dude bowing to them. Why does he care if they beat Shaw.
Oh, Weyland didn't see that coming did he? Beaten to death with the head of his own robot. Irony.
Oh, he's following Shaw. I wonder what he'll try to tell her and how... The most recent cave drawing was 680 AD in hawaii... he probably can't speak English...
hemight have to grab her, drag her back to the ship, and with David as interpreter, and thse 3D holograms,,, he'll explain ALL about the bad things that kidnapped humans and turned them blue. She'll be happy about finding this out.
Oh, no, she killed him with one of those nasty facehuggers things. That was huge how did it get so big... and what happened the two crew members we never saw die... oh, yeah, they were medical staff.... and there's blood in the medical bay where the big squid thing is. Off screen death can be funny when it's not Newt and Hicks doing the dying eh?
Now David wants another master. He was hoping for a superior one. He tells Shaw that there are more ships. She wants to fly off and ask the slave masters to have a discussion on philosophical issues?
She's deluded. This film is mental.
I've posted some threads on different aspects of this. Check them out by clicking my user name.
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