Ridley Scott on 2001 and the Death of Science Fiction

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David 1

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Thanks to Member and Friend THE TRUTH who kindly show me this one: [url=http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/07/ridley-scott-science-fiction-is-dead.html]Ridley Scott: "After 2001 -A Space Odyssey, Science Fiction is Dead"[/url] In a speech at the 2007 Venice Film Festival at special screening of his seminal noir thriller Blade Runner, Sir Ridley Scott, the legendary director of Alien, announced that he believes that science-fiction as a genre is dead -gone the way of Westerns. Scott believes, as we do at The Daily Galaxy, that although the flashy special effects of block-busters such as The Matrix, Independence Day and The War of the Worlds, may sell at the box office, that none can beat Stanley Kubrick’s haunting 1968 epic 2001: A Space Odyssey. The film is as fresh (and perhaps more relevant) today as the day it premiered. The video at the end of the post -Kubrick 2001 -The Space Odyssey Explained- is a minor masterpiece in itself and is not to be missed. “There’s nothing original. We’ve seen it all before. Been there. Done it,” Scott said. Made at the height of the “space race” between the United States and the USSR, 2001 predicted a world of malevolent computers and routine space travel. Kubrick had such a fanatical eye for detail, he employed Nasa experts in designing the spacecraft. Sir Ridley said that 2001 was “the best of the best”, in use of lighting, special effects and atmosphere, adding that every sci-fi film since had imitated or referred to it. “There is an over reliance on special effects as well as weak storylines,” he said of modern sci-fi films. More than anything, 2001 and its journey from the origins of life in prehistoric Africa in 4 million BC to Jupiter, where a new creature, the HAL 9000 computer inhabits the dark void of space. The film is Kubrick's philosophical statement about humanity's place in the universe, about where we as humans rate in the pecking order of life -- "feral, intelligent and hyper-intelligent." The famous Monoliths at the opening of the film and the Star Child at the end indicates that entities have reached a higher level of consciousness. Despite the fact that humanity remains more or less earthbound, Kubrick -- through his strange, infuriating and by turns terrifying movie points towards our future: to our destiny beyond the Solar System. The film's primary themes include the origins of evolution; sentient computers; extra-terrestrial beings; the search for one's place in the universe; and re-birth all seen within a cold, foreboding light. Viewers often read the monoliths as signposts of our discovery of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Shortly after the film's release, however, Kubrick told a New York Times reporter that it's more a matter of the other beings discovering us. Steven Spielberg called 2001 A Space Odyssey (1968) his generation's "big bang," focusing its attention upon the Russo-American space race -a prelude to orbiting and landing on the Moon with Apollo 11 on July 20, 1969. And it prophetically showed the enduring influence that computers would have in our daily lives. The special effects techniques Kubrick pioneered were further developed by Ridley Scott and George Lucas for films such as Alien and Star Wars. 2001 is particularly notable as one of the few films realistically presenting travel in outer space, with scenes in outer space completely silent; weightlessness is constant, with characters are strapped in place; when characters wear pressure suits, only their breathing is audible. Stanley Kubrick -director of Dr Strangelove, Lolita, and Clockwork Orange- spent five years developing 2001, collaborating with SF legend Arthur C. Clarke on the script, expanding on Clarke's short story "The Sentinel". The screenplay and the novel were written simultaneously. The novel and the film deviate substantially from each other, with the novel explaining a great deal of what the film leaves deliberately ambiguous. The film is notable for its use of classical music, such as Richard Strauss's Also Sprach Zarathustra and Johann Strauss's The Blue Danube waltz, as well the music of contemporary, avant-garde Hungarian composer, György Ligeti (though this was done without Ligeti's consent). Atmospheres, Lux Aeterna, and Requiem on the 2001 soundtrack was the first wide commercial exposure of Ligeti's work. The moon docking sequence, which preceded the actual moon landing by a year, looks remarkably accurate. It's no wonder so many people believe the Apollo 11 landing was filmed on a Hollywood sound stage -- Kubrick had already done it, and he made it look easy. One of the more crucial elements of 2001 is the lack of sound that dominates the film, which is true to that there would be no sound in space (no atmosphere means no medium for sound transmission). The real drama begins when HAL, one of cinema's all-time evil and terrifying characters, makes his appearance. The HAL 9000: a malevolent, homicidal, and sightly effete (he sings "Daisy")) intelligent computer that controls the operations of the spaceship Discovery, which is on its way to Jupiter with a team of astronauts to explore the monoliths' origins. In the movie's climatic sequence, Discovery crewmen David Bowman and Frank Poole attempt to disable the computer after the stability of his programming becomes suspect. Omnipotent in their microcosmic on-board setting, HAL doesn't take kindly to this suggestion. Bowman and Poole hole themselves up in space pod to engage in what they think is a private conversation. HAL, however, watches, reading their lips. Not good... Sir Ridley is one of Britain’s most acclaimed film-makers. His extraordinary number of box-office hits include Alien – another sci-fi classic, best remembered for the scene of an infant creature bursting through John Hurt’s chest – as well as Thelma & Louise, Gladiator and Black Hawk Down. But it is for Blade Runner that sci-fi fans revere him most. Ridley's vision, writes Cinematical writer Kevin Kelly, turned Philip K. Dick's novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? "into a look at a dystopian future that still influences the look and feel of science fiction films to this day." Scott began his feature film directing career with The Duellists, a small but dazzling masterpiece, which brought him the Grand Jury Prize at the 1978 Cannes Film Festival. His second film was the breakthrough hit Alien, which won an Academy Award for Special Effects. This was followed by Blade Runner, now considered one of the landmark science fiction films of all time. In 2003, Scott was knighted by the Queen of England.
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Very cool David 1. Thanks.
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I agree with Ridley... but I appreciate him doing what he can...
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As I already said in the other post, I kinda got a 2001 vibe from Prometheus. It’s pretty obvious that Ridley is a fan of 2001. Most of the people who enjoy space sci-fi are anyways. I agree with Ridley, nowadays it’s hard to impress people. Everything has been done already in scifi.
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The Truth: Glad you made it here. 2001 is a "masterpiece of art" cinema-wise. No doubt about it. Everything about it is magnificent. There are, however, some other pretty good Sci-Fi flicks out there, but they tend to be 2001-ish. I believe the greatest Sci-Fi movie mistake that have been done to death is that filmakers try to emulate 2001 one way or the other, instead of trying a new aproach. That and the Film Industry not wanting anything else then revenues from the box office. Film as an Art form is rapidly dying.
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Yea I agree with you about film as an art form dying. I saw a recent interview with Ridley Scott and the interviewer asked him something related to that and he said that he trick was to balance both because if he tried to do a pure art film he woulnd´t receive the funding to do it. Thats kinda sad.
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Science Fiction is not dead at all. You find every few years a masterpiece in sci-fi, maybe the last real masterpiece in sci-fi was matrix? There are thousands of writers out there with hundredthousands of shortstories already written. Its not only Philip K. Dick, Wells and Lovecraft who wrote sci-fi stories... and i bet there are thousands of stories nobody knows except a few nerds. But as the whole world is in a choke-hold to a "interest and compound interest money system", only MONEY and CASH counts to deliver to a bank system which rules the world. Its not the politics - its the banking systems that rules all the world. So its on the AUDIENCE to CHOOSE what it wants to see - the makers only REACT on boxoffice counts. Culture and quality is completely irrelevant, interest and compound interest have to be payed to the rulers of the world.
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there are classics like Alien, Solaris, Star Wars, Blade Runner, War of the Worlds (´53), The Thing ( ´51 and ´82) etc, but 2001 was all original by its time and completly plausible designed with the background knowledge of NASA. After it failed at box office sales in the beginning it soon got popular among the psychedelic era youth. not to forget 1 year before the actual Apollo mission.. great.. though I loved The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms, Jack Arnold, Riddick, Terminator 4, Moon or Apollo 18 , too.. I´d love to see Half Life2 as a movie..;)
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Lindelost: True. As I told The Truth, there are a lot of Sci-Fi out there. Some quite good, others not so good at all. The thing is that Kubrick has made a piece of Art with 2001 and elevated the standard for the genre. It's going to be extremely dificult to beat it. Plus, the money droolers won't help.
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Kane77: Moon is a great flick [and an intellectual one]. Half Life would be a great flick if handled properly. Otherwise it would turn out to be like DOOM... not so good.
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Apollo 18 was also good. I think movies like that are interesting. As I said in some of my other threads, short attention span of new generation and quick money earning thinking of directors, puts us into end of almost every genre these days.
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Sky: So true!!!!!!!!! Kids don't know they can think. It's a difficult concept for them
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