Alien Division #3 - Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteAugust 24, 2017So far this series has seen two one sided polls, with #1 siding completely towards the belief that there is likely a conspiracy regarding Weyland-Yutani and the Xenomorph and #2 siding away from Alien being remade. Let's see if this poll will be as clear cut.
Each time, as before, two absolutes will be on offer, each with three pieces of supporting evidence, all you gotta do is vote one way or the other. It's just for fun, but also helps us gauge our own view of this franchise against those of others. For this one, I will quote a song by the Clash "Should I Stay or Should I Go", all I ask is that you imagine that the co-founder of Brandywine Productions and co-owner of the production rights to the Alien franchise, David Giler be singing the song. Let's begin - Stay or Go, which side do you lean toward...
Stay
David Giler and Walter Hill, along with the late Gordon Carroll were approached in the mid-seventies by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shussett with a script called Alien, formerly Starbeast, that the duo believed had the potential to become an A class movie despite its B movie influences. As part of Brandywine Productions, Giler was instrumental in the realization of the first two movies, which are almost universally accepted as the best two movies of the franchise, and in the genre of science fiction movies.
- Evidence 1 - Had it not been for Giler, Hill and Carroll Alien would likely have been produced by B-movie legend Roger Corman, and as such would likely not be the celebrated classic it has become.
- Evidence 2 - During the production of The Terminator, Arnold Schwarzenegger had to leave to film Conan the Destroyer. During this time James Cameron wrote the script for Aliens and pending the success of The Terminator was offered to direct his script. This deal came about thanks to Giler promoting Cameron's original 45-page treatment to 20th Century Fox.
- Evidence 3 - The character of Ash, and the corporate conspiracy surrounding Special Order 937 were added to the script of Alien by Giler. Together these elements help lift Alien above the plethora of 'creature features' that flooded the genre of sci-fi movies both before and since its release.
Go
Following the success of both Alien and Aliens, Giler was approached by Fox to develop a sequel, to which Giler penned a script and approached a series of writers and directors, each of which offered their own interpretations of what they believed the third movie should be. None of these made it past Giler, who by 1990 had cost Fox $50 million, but still had not produced a shootable script or a willing director. The script that was finally used was rewritten by Giler and Hill and was, in essence, an amalgamation of elements of all of the scripts they had turned down beforehand. During the production of Alien 3, Giler frequently rewrote this script, forcing reshoots and scheduling issues, making first time director David Fincher's experience so unbearable that Fincher left before production was complete.
- Evidence 1 - Whether you like it or not, Alien 3 could have been so much more, and the reason it wasn't is David Giler, as mentioned above. Although he claims he had nothing to do with Resurrection, it was Giler that demanded Joss Whedon rewrite his initial script to incorporate the return of Ripley. And the AVP crossover movies would never have been made if Giler (and Hill) had not given Fox permission to use the Alien property.
- Evidence 2 - Upon receiving O'Bannon's script Giler renamed the existing characters and added Ash. Legally this was considered enough of an amendment to the original script to guarantee Giler (and Hill and Carroll) the production rights to the property, however, the writers guild refused to give Giler sole writing credit. Typically, unless sold, the production rights of a script belong to the author of the script, which in this case should have been O'Bannon.
- Evidence 3 - The addition of Ash, and with him, the corporate conspiracy element of the narrative was, as previously mentioned, added by Giler. While today it is seen as having lifted the movie above its 'creature feature' roots, this was not the case back in 1979. As with the flood of superhero movies we are currently experiencing, the 'corporate conspiracy' trope was beyond overused by 1979, especially within science fiction - Rollerball, Soylent Green, Logans Run, Demon Seed, Westworld, Futureworld etc.
Which side are you one?