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Oh yeah! That's a good comparison, joylitt! I loved It Comes at Night and was really mad at how it was marketed. Lot of the audience that it was really boring because they expected a in your face action-y horror. Marketing for Hollywood movies nowadays kills me.
Ati thank you for the share!
I wouldn't buy one off dodgy internet pages but someone did the above Vader vs Queen as a modular canvas similar like below. Damn it looked so amazing on a wall blown up.
Modular canvas feature art seem to be a popular thing atm. Some of the artwork you have shared on here would look stunning done like this!! or Dane Hallett's work!!
IRaptus - Glad you like them.
Thank you for the extra images!
I noticed that. This movie gives me a "It Comes At Night" vibe, which was a bad case of misleading advertising.
Awesome Ati!
My Fav. I saw this on Facebook once. Same artist :)
Nice fan art there, but...."We know from interviews that the Xenomorph was not created by David alone, but was a tweaking of an existing genetic makeup previously exploited by the Engineers." <-- Which interviews?? The only thing I heard Scott saying about this is that "David created it". The story in some of the early scripts and the Novel may indicate that the Engineers created it first, but Scott changed his mind in this movie and had David be the originator. Watch the extended material of Alien: Covenant called "Advent". It shows David mixing Shaw's tissue (her eggs maybe?) with tissue of a dead Neomorph and the black goo, leading to the Xenomorph eggs being formed.
Joylitt, thank you for your interest! Here is the YouTube channel: Back Row: Movie News. We are under the same name on iTunes and Google Play. I'm the one on the right! :) Warning, there is harsh language!
dk, I second your post. I was excited for the Ridley and cast interviews (and I don't mean to be dissrespectful or rude, Chris.). Plus, there is only one way to find out if you'll enjoy doing a podcast! :)
Just rewatched Prometheus again last night first time since watching AC. Man was that a better movie than AC! I really do like Prometheus and would love to see a similar movie for Awakening but I do want to see some alien experiments, evolution and explanations.
Hi im sherris.
live in middlesbrough in england
thats the north east part.
the forgotten north. lol
i have a few mental issues and substance so i am the local loonatic around these parts ;)
especially when im very wiped as opposed to "holding it together" mode but i try to stay away if i am in too much of an altered state
its better that way....
Dead civilization (especially the part of the film when the camera moves down to the stone heads, gives me chills every time), spores, and chestburster (really beautiful soundtrack).
I like the Alien Covenant 'Medbay' very much - awesome scene, awesome ost:
A long erect shaft penetrates their ship, nestled snugly within an ovoid opening and sealed from the void of space by strong muscular-like ligaments around the opening. I think Giger may have appreciated this line.
Give it a shot! If it doesn't work out, that's ok. Nothing ventured and all that stuff...
With all due respect, I never saw the Chris/Ridley interview we were promised.
(Back on the stolen Juggernanut ship)
The Engineer behind Shaw roughly shoves her forward again. She staggers and begins walking towards the round portal door, following David and his captor. The lead Engineer watches with hard eyes as they are paraded past, then falls in line behind them protectively.
Shaw and David are led through their stolen ship to another portal analogous to an airlock door. A long erect shaft penetrates their ship, nestled snugly within an ovoid opening and sealed from the void of space by strong muscular-like ligaments around the opening. Disturbed Shaw passes through the portal and traverses the semi-opaque firm structure between their ship and the Dyson Sphere dock.
They enter into a cavernous room ringed on the hull side by closed ovoid portals. The centre of the room contains enormous a ring of giant stone sculptures of ancient Engineers, standing like titans and paragons of old. They seemed to Shaw to be looking down and judging the mere mortals beneath them. Standing within the ring is another single Engineer, suited but without the elephantine mask and a long black cloak riding down behind him.
Seeing them approach he steps forwards.
"Dr Shaw. Greetings. I am Remek son of Lord Vogut" it says in perfect English. it points to David "remove this abomination from my sight. Take it to Artificer for defragmentation. I will not tolerate its presence"
Remek places a hand on Shaw's shoulder and guides her away from David and the Engineer boarding party. "I must thank you Dr. Shaw for bringing our lost ship to us. It is my understanding your journey has been very fruitful. There is much we need to discuss..."
cuponator3000 What is the link for your podcast if I may ask
Crhis! Go for it! I know I, and I think a lot of us here, would love to hear the podcast! Like I said in another topic, I started one recently (slow going, but very fun), so I would love to hear you on a scified podcast!
Go for it guys!! Podcasts are the new frontier of media, it would be awesome to listen to your editorials via podcast while working etc (where not physically able to read a screen).
:)
DK - I agree that the beast is a killing machine with intelligence, but so were humans at one point in our progression. And along that progression the lineage split. There remained the impulsive killers, and then there were the producers and inventors. I don't think we go there with the xeno, but is their only purpose to kill, and procreate to kill while staying simple and basic beasts? Loaded question...I think it is, as I can't see them writing code and wrenching on chevy v8's, which kind of leads us to question "why". That's the movie...Why would someone create something like that? Take the xeno to it's logical end, the species would die as it exhausted all of its hosts. Not perfect as Ash described. Canon is a b!tch.
It's as if the beast is the embodiment of cancer, ebola or the like. Just a means to an end - the big end. But that flys in the face of the worship-like murals we see. Do the elders worship destruction instead of life? Is that their gift to the universe? Without instigation, that mindset typically is reserved to the lower IQ crowd, so to speak.
And if it is a doomsday creature, I would argue that the neo is a better weapon.
It sounds like a great idea to me :-)
I agree with some points. I mean, Ridley Scott seems to care, but not really about what the hardcore fans want. Not really what the masses want in a film either. He just seems to want to do his own thing (which is respectable to a point), but it isn't totally meshing with the Alien universe. I mean, sure having the Space Jockeys as beings above us in the universal hierarchy and asking questions about the things he is, has really been a fun journey for me (and will continue that way).
However, it is rather disheartening that he consistently craps on one of the most famous and best movie monsters ever. Yes, it is pretty much cooked at this point, but all it needs is someone with passion to revive it. Someone who is willing to make sure that the characters are done well enough (Scott and company seem to focus on plot over characters and have a lot of big themes and questions to cover. No room for emotion) and treat the beast as more than... well, more than what Scott treats it as. The Disney comment, well, I agree. If there is one thing Disney is usually good at, it is securing box-office performances and maintaining vision. I could see it working out if Disney ever gets a deal done with Fox.
I honeslty don't think I would really love Del Toro directing one, but Garland, hell yeah.
I would support a Scified podcast! I recently started one (called Back Row: Movie News) with a friend, so I would definitely be down to listen to/watch a Scified podcast (and help in any way I can!)
I'm afraid they might be right on all seven points. RS's heart and soul were in the mini-films.
good idea. would also maybe be good if it can be done with members phoning in n discussing topics if that's possible n get their views n not just actors?
We've looked into making Podcasts in the past. I've done some with voice actor friends of mine (to help a young man get his own series started) and suggested we do some with other actors, etc. I think Chris and Gman wanted to do one awhile back.
Have you noticed the snowy mountain in the distance (second image)? Doesn't that imply an earthlike climate? We know that the crew of Prometheus couldn't breathe outside the ship, but they could inside the temple. The engineers had some kind of terra-forming device inside the temple, but it was open towards the climate outside (the outer door was open).
hes just making shit up as he goes along. his comments re and post Prometheus proves this. wonder what hel be saying after the next movie. ''it was all Walt Disney, he extracted the black goo out of Mickey's butt''
im all one for David being an antagonist within the series but Ridley is replacing the focal point of the franchise away from the xeno onto David which isn't gna work. as the guy states in the podcast, if he wanted to focus on something other than the xeno then Prometheus should have been the first movie in a completely new franchise. its an alien franchise so the focus should be centred around the xeno. I love how Prometheus opened up so many door for possibility but AC kinda shut most of them coz he cant be arsed focusing on anything other than David. if he truly believes the xeno is cooked then why come back? hes spent no time on the engineers, hardly any time on the xeno and focusing on David's quest to rule.
If only the AI stuff would have been new, well-thought out and interesting. Or at least one of them.
cant argue with anything said. I love Ridley Scott movies but u have to question his dedication to the alien franchise at this point. he slammed AVP and AVPR and yet what has AC done that's better for the franchise? the alien franchise is centred around the monster yet RS is trying to move that focus onto a homicidal AI. Prometheus opened the franchise up and gave for endless potential yet look at where hes gone with AC. contradiction and lack of vision imo is damaging the franchise. hes taking the prequel series down the same path episodes 1-3 went in star wars. doing more harm than good. hes hell bent on taking the wonder and mystery of the original movie and chucking all that away simply to investigate AI. stick to Bladerunner for that and leave the alien franchise centred around the monster but open the universe back up with the engineers and possible others. id love to see Del Toro get his teeth into the franchise. im fast losing faith in Ridley to do the original movie or the franchise any justice or fox for that matter so maybe a takeover by Disney would be a smart move. if awakening follows in the same path as AC then ill look at the franchise as incomplete. I put AC in the same frame as AVP and AVPR and by that I mean it did nothing for the franchise imo and I wont watch again. ill stick to alien through to Prometheus and keep the mystery alive
Precisely for the reasons you mention it is so important to try and make good movies. These days with the franchises it is very common for fans to say: "the movie was just ok but it is a good set up for better things to come" or "it is a step in the right direction". Actually that is what they are saying about the Justice League movie right now, which is awful. Life is too short and time is too precious to waste in terrible movies like that. This applies to the Alien franchise as well, enough of bad movies already. We want to see a good one before we leave this planet!
critters, im not sure of a starbeast book but if ur looking for the script got to simplyscripts. theres loads of unproduced alien scripts there
I don't think RS will be around long enough to do that. To be fair, I might not be around to see it if it does happen.
The series can continue, but I think things need to link up to Alien first. The carrot dangling is old.
dk There is a mythology to explore. You can unveil a mystery that leads to other mysteries. There are different settings and different genre cross overs to try. If Ridley Scott sticks to his explanation that David created the xenomorph he is condemning the sequels to an endless repetition of the same tropes, and that's a certain death for the franchise.
joylitt Agree. But what would you do with the beast to carry on? I see it as a killing machine with intelligence. I am unsure what else to do with the beast. Maybe it would be about characters dealing with it since we know what the Alien is about. We don't know how a good cast of characters would deal.
I want to see the xenomorph in many movies to come. Not the xenomorph from "Alien Covenant", though. As the people in the podscast said, Ridley Scott is being hypocritical in what he says about the xenomorph, because what is really "cooked" is the format, not the monster. He made 3 movies that follows more or less the same premise.
Well Alex Garland has many good films, but aren't those more or less cult movies? He does good movies and I am waiting for Annihilation, but does what to make an Alien movie? Does del Toro?
I for one agree that the Xenomorph is cook, but also think Covenant was burn out of severe lack of imagination.
dk - That painting is one of my favs as well.
BigDave - My pleasure...
sherris - Indeed, the possibilites are endless.
'I just hope it is an evolved world and we can get some stunning visuals to speak about.'
We would like to see the same universe, beyond doubt.
Thank you for the comments.
Those points echo sentiments on this forum almost verbatim.
