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Browsing over the points in the discussion I believe several items bear examination. Weyland Yutani would not want any unneccessary press regarding this covert operation. The crew of the Nostromo had longstanding records of misconduct and grievances with the company. As a result it would not be difficult for a corporation to discredit them should any form of arbitration be perpetrated. Ash was more than likely observing the gestation cycle and transmitting results back to the company. He nearly pushes Ripley away when she attempts to see what he's looking at in the scanning electron microscope, and hastily shuts the display off. As he is the one who informs Dallas that he should come to medlab and see Kane, he more than likely also knew that the Embryo had matured significantly, and was awaiting the next stage in it's development. Just prior to the chest bursting sequence he's also watching Kane with a bit more than casual curiousity. In the novelization Ash also sabotages an attempt by the crew to lure the Xenomorph into the airlock and blow it out into space. This demonstrates that he is following Special Order 937 to the letter and doing whatever is neccessary to bring this specimen back alive regardless of it's effect on the rest of the crew.

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Thanks for the contributions guys, keep them coming. My earliest memory of Alien was seeing the creature in 1979 / 1980 in a magazine that must have been something like Starlog or such like that probably featured a Star Wars feature, as I was, and still am, a massive Star Wars fan. I remember as a 6 year old seeing this amazingly scary, interesting, beautiful yet graceful thing and being totally mesmerised by it. The image was a profile of the creature standing in the Nostromo airlock, with lights flashing around the creature giving it a dark, evil shadowy presence. At that point, my best friend was a real sci-fi freak and we both started to buy magazines and find out more about this scary adult film. Now, my Dad saw Alien on VHS pirate and it scared the pants of him, but he told me most of what happened, which I told my mate..and that was it, we had to see it! later the same year Alien had it's TV debut, me and my Dad watched it, minus my Mom who didn't watch those kind of films (Yet..she is now like the biggest Aliens fan EVER) and we settled down with the lights off. One of the conditions of me watching this movie from my Mom was that I didn't watch the chest burster scene onwards because it would be too scary for me. My Dad, just wanting a quiet life, stood fast to this rule, as much as I begged him not too and I watched up until Cane awoke on the table. But what I saw just blew me away! Nothing I had ever seen was like this, Star Wars was amazing but it wasn't realistic, dangerous, gloomy and just plain damn scary as this was! The facehugger made me squeal, just what was that thing in the chair? What was that craft? Naturally, I didn't sleep a wink that night, got to school the next day and ended up talking about it all day with my mate. My first full viewing must have been a few years later, must have been 10 years old at the time and the rest of the movie seriously scared the pants off me, but, I ended up buying it on VHS, then Widescreen, the DVD and then Blu-ray. Oh, and I did get to see it on the cinema in 2003 when the special edition was released, and the experience was complete, the film I knew scene by scene suddenly took on a whole new meaning, the sense of size and awe in the jockey ship was breath taking. The lighting took on new meaning as did the sound, the cinema added a new air of menace to the whole experience too. Lengthy, but all good memories of a damn good film, would really like it if Ridley would read this, just to know how much he scared me!

Thanks for the contributions guys, keep them coming. My earliest memory of Alien was seeing the creature in 1979 / 1980 in a magazine that must have been something like Starlog or such like that probably featured a Star Wars feature, as I was, and still am, a massive Star Wars fan. I remember as a 6 year old seeing this amazingly scary, interesting, beautiful yet graceful thing and being totally mesmerised by it. The image was a profile of the creature standing in the Nostromo airlock, with lights flashing around the creature giving it a dark, evil shadowy presence. At that point, my best friend was a real sci-fi freak and we both started to buy magazines and find out more about this scary adult film. Now, my Dad saw Alien on VHS pirate and it scared the pants of him, but he told me most of what happened, which I told my mate..and that was it, we had to see it! later the same year Alien had it's TV debut, me and my Dad watched it, minus my Mom who didn't watch those kind of films (Yet..she is now like the biggest Aliens fan EVER) and we settled down with the lights off. One of the conditions of me watching this movie from my Mom was that I didn't watch the chest burster scene onwards because it would be too scary for me. My Dad, just wanting a quiet life, stood fast to this rule, as much as I begged him not too and I watched up until Cane awoke on the table. But what I saw just blew me away! Nothing I had ever seen was like this, Star Wars was amazing but it wasn't realistic, dangerous, gloomy and just plain damn scary as this was! The facehugger made me squeal, just what was that thing in the chair? What was that craft? Naturally, I didn't sleep a wink that night, got to school the next day and ended up talking about it all day with my mate. My first full viewing must have been a few years later, must have been 10 years old at the time and the rest of the movie seriously scared the pants off me, but, I ended up buying it on VHS, then Widescreen, the DVD and then Blu-ray. Oh, and I did get to see it on the cinema in 2003 when the special edition was released, and the experience was complete, the film I knew scene by scene suddenly took on a whole new meaning, the sense of size and awe in the jockey ship was breath taking. The lighting took on new meaning as did the sound, the cinema added a new air of menace to the whole experience too. Lengthy, but all good memories of a damn good film, would really like it if Ridley would read this, just to know how much he scared me!

I was seventeen when Aliens hit UK cinemas back in '86, a while after it came out in the States. There was always a delay in those days. My mate had been on holiday to the US & had seen it there.. He would not stop talking about the movie, about the Marines, the weapons, the battles.. We went to see it together as soon as it hit the UK. It was at a local fleapit movie theatre & we had turned up late, the movie had already started, Apone was loading the Marines up on the APC.. I walked out of the threatre breathless.. I was totally blown away.. I went to see it again the day after. Aliens, the original Star Wars Movies & Raiders are the only movies that really matter to me.. Alien was just too damn scary when I first watched it as a kid, it's only more recently I've come to appreciate it.. The scene where Brett discovers the Alien.. Damn.. I fear for this new movie, expectations are very high, I'm praying Ridley pulls it off..

what attitude, that you should appreciate what you have in this world and be thankful you have a job and for what you do have in life already, like your health, and a PC to type your derision on? My Lord, don't let the door slam you in the ass on the way out.

To answer your question: "What attitude" Obviously this: IMO, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO TOOK PART IN ANY OF THESE... should be immediately be DEPORTED from the United States to Syria, Iran, Iraq, Gaza, Afghanistan, Somalia, China, North Korea, or anywhere like that take your "frikking" pick. How ANYONE, can live and work in the United States and then spend months of their time complaining about how bad they have it, NEEDS to be deported, it will only BETTER your country. I think the people doing this are incapable and LAZY COWARDS with a nice idea in theory and NO IDEA "whatsoever how to make it a reality without using it as a cheap excuse to get out of their responsibilities in life. I think their free loaders looking for a handout. I say give em one, a FREE Ticket Out Of Town with instructions and directions and a warning to NEVER come back." Sorry but that sounds like the same attitude on deportation that Germany had around 1942. We certainly don't want to adopt your thinking here in the U.S A. If these are your views it seems obvious you have taken a wrong turn in your journey to be "amercanized". What is disappointing me is not just the bigoted views but I am not seeing anyone stand up to it. Maybe I'll participate later if the community becomes less complacent with these types of attitudes and starts standing up to them. If I am the only one to stand up against this then truly there is no reason for me to be here anyway and I leave you to yourselves.

Wierzbowski [i]supposedly[/i] gets taken out by an alien. After all, you never see it actually happen. Of course, you never see him alive either :-)

I always thought Hicks was shouting, "Where's Bowski? lol

The dude abides! He gets a little face time if you pay attention when they come out of cryosleep and when they are eating around the tables, you just have to pick him out by omitting people that actually have lines

T-Shirts should be made " Where's Wierzbowski?"....only Aliens fan would get it.

lmao Cain good idea. I can get them made here in Chicago for $14.99 with no screen fees and no minimum. I might have one made.

and get the Sulaco ship number on it..be pretty sweet..I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma but was raised in NYC my whole life until the joined the military and then lived in Germany for 8 years....

and also, He needs a facebook page too....he needs to be known, lol.

We could develop an alien version of highlights magazine a la where's waldo featuring our good friend, plus facehuggers, zenos, other colonial marine, space jockeys, colonists and the like, then we could teach our children from an early age the joy of the alien universe

A fanfare dictionary of the Alien Universe....made by the fans. Great Idea!

I never saw Alien in the movie theatre ... I was too young at the time and my parents wouldn't let me go see it. But I read the book first, without seeing any of the visuals, and it simply freaked me out. There's a scene in the book (not in the movie) where Dallas walks across a catwalk while hunting the alien in the airshaft, and it almost grabs him from below, that literally made me jump. It's the only book to actually scare me. When I finally saw the visuals (in the form of the Alien movie novel and in "The Book Of Alien" at the book store) I was mesmerized. It was just a perfect combination of story, concept, and art direction that created something amazing. It was several years later that I finally saw the movie, and was not disappointed at all.

I remember when Aliens came out back in '85. I was 9 then and it took me a week to talk my mother into taking me. I got hooked on the Xeno from Alien that I rented at Blockbuster a couple weeks before the movie came out. They scared the hell out of me back then. I was on the edge of my seat during the entire movie. We made it all the way through the movie to where the Queen turns the corner when Ripley was waiting for the elevator in the reactor and suddenly we heard a loud bang from behind us and through the sound system the film snapped and something blew in the projector when the film busted. We had to get a rain check for the movie. But holy crap that loud bang scared the snot out of me and forever scarred my psyche with Aliens :)

That's Spunkmeyer Spartacus, Wierzbowski gets taken by a Xeno in the hive. About 1.20 in [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRM8JGz0soI]Let's Rock[/url]

you're right man, my bad. and my apologies for that mistake of mine. Thanks for pointing it out. & as soon as I read the word,"spunkmeir" LMAO....I knew you were right!!! Regards.

I disagree about him not counting 2 or 3, and especially 2. That was a great point about Burke and the androids in general. Whats funny is that even in the movie Aliens itself there is a STRONG suggestion that it is false to assume he wouldn't be able to bring the specimen{s} back to earth because of his programming because during his knife play with Hudson, Bishop Misses and cuts himself, a Clear Sign he is NOT up to the spec he claims he is...and at that point the viewer is forced to believe that something isn't quite right with his mantra of his/it's of non harming of humans. What I am realizing as we move closer to Launch is that the possibilities that these original films left behind are almost limitless and very exciting with regard to their nature and their set up in the 1st one.

Other than the chest birthing part and the space jockey scene...I would say the scene with Ripley in her underwear trying to get into a space suit...No the parts where Brett is smoking a joint. "I just forgot something, we would like to discuss the bonus situation". Which they just smoked.

I found these at a web site entitled, "Arrow In The Head" ! Walter Hill was initially supposed to direct this film but he pulled out and Scott took over. Much of the dialogue in the film was improvised. An early draft of the script had Ripley as a man. A sex scene between Dallas and Ripley was in the script but never filmed. Scott originally wanted a darker ending. He wanted the alien to bite Ripley's head off in the escape shuttle then sit in her chair and start speaking with her voice in a message to Earth. Apparently, 20th Century Fox wasn’t down with that. Veronica Cartwright was originally set to play Ripley but the producers went for Weaver in the long run. A.E. van Vogt sued the film claiming plagiarism of his 1939 story 'Discord in Scarlet. Everything was settled out of court, of course. I would have loved to have seen that alternate ending! & It could have changed a lot today with Prometheus had they ever done that!

My favorite part is when they are getting ready to march on to the armored vehicle to load into the drop shit. "Absolutely Bad Asses!","Who's mean!"...right up to the part where Hudson is acting like a wanker and is telling Ripley not to worry cause of why they are the ultimate bad asses!

Incredible Rick, Thanks man !

Hey Spart, Yeah that guitar is bada$$. I think I am going to get one for Christmas. Regards, Rick

I understand also that Scott is to direct a film adaptation of The Forever War. That guy is going to be busy!

I have a feeling he is going to be in the forefront over the next few years, and if he is going to be doing more Sci-Fi, then so much the better, he is just so dam good at that.

Just love the depth and attention to detail this back ground stuff brings to the movie, most non fan's would use the old "SAD" word to sum this up, but I just love it. Wasn't this character info available on the DVD release?

This is in relation to Dallas and Brett's DNA being changed: It is always been said that the "company" wants the alien for their weapons department......... Maybe Prometheus is going to explain the whole process of DNA re-structuring and therefore explain why the company wants the alien, (traditional alien), as a way of hindering their enemy helpless.....???? This would also provide Prometheus with "DNA" to the Alien film which Ridley is on about...... However I do think this would take away a considerable amount of mystery in Alien and Aliens which I think will make them else entertaining. I do think Ridley and Damon are smart enough to no that they shouldn't reveal to many secrets as to destroy the original film... So do you's think have they come up with a new type of link to Alien???

Maybe the Alien is cocooning victims also for food, like a spider, after all, every living thing needs to eat. I guess it snacked on Lambert ad Parker first, as there is no sign of them even in the deleted scenes, so I would expect it's saving Brett and Dallas for later. I do agree with the victim-morphing-egg idea though!

I like the morph / absorption theory. From the deleted scene, I believe the human body is used as a simple food, raw material source for new eggs to be created, as seen from the shot of Brett. I never thought the Aliens had the kind of biology that needed food? I always saw it that the inner mouth / jaws were used as a close quarters weapon as i don't remember seeing any victims in the films being eaten by an Alien? As to the looks and appearance of the Jockey Alien, that will be great to see. Would such a mix of DNA create a more intelligent creature? Similar in nature to the "White thing" in Resurrection? Just as a point of interest, the first Aliens novel by Steve Perry features an appearance by a member of the Jockey race. It communicated via telepathy, mentally taking to Billy after an Alien attack. This Jockey was not particularly friendly in nature, Billy was quite scared by the being, in essence, mentally raping her, to transferring images, feelings and it's races future intentions into her mind. The Jockey was also considerably larger than a human, but then we know that for fact from Alien....sorry if you all know this but I thought I would just venture a wee bit of knowledge!

He has about 3 seconds of partially exposed film time just before he dies via severe slashing via xenomorph as he boards one of the drop ship trasnports and right after Ripley drives the car through the barrier on LKV-426. The transport ship then gets destroyed as the xenomorph eats Corporal Ferro while she's piloting it.

First time on the forum... Big Alien fan... Reply to alpasavi: The reason why Ash starts to do a warm up as crew of the Nostromo goes to explore the alien ship is because Ridley and Ian Holm, i.e. Ash, thought that because he was a robot that the motors in his body would get stiff over time and that he would do warm up's to keep them from getting stuck.... It was in one of the DVD commentaries... There is a major need for a trailer for this film...

and this is exactly why I suspect we now know, in light of the new addition to the story line, that "Bishop" was always nothing more than a pure mechanical representation of the fact that "WY" wanted ONLY to create a new weapon. They were aware of everything involving The Prometheus by then and from the very start.

Why not just send a ship with just androids rather than the human element? The mission would get probably done without interference of the human emotion. Much to debate and think about...I love my fellow fans here...cool stuff!

lol...now we know... Bishop was so close to changing everything... & That's why his scream of ..."Nooooooooooooooo" at the very end of Alien3 resonated so strongly with me all these years.... ...I just knew there was something so sinister in that scream, and now we know, he WAS an ANDROID just as Ripley suspected all along, and all he wanted and and all of what he stood for was the capture and exploitation of Ripley's baby !!!

Ok guys, explain this to me. If Bishop can't by mission or action harm a human being because of his behavioral inhibitor how would he be able to keep the specimens alive for return to the company labs knowing that they'd kill humans in their reproductive process? I think Burke did something to Bishop since the company owns Bishop and Burke is the company rep there. Is there anything in the anthology somewhere about this?

I would not even count Aliens and Alien 3 having anything to do with Alien and Prometheus..pretty sure that Scott has his own intentions with the androids.

Hey Cain, There is no way the Alien could be a natural organism. It would devastate any bio-system it was in, much like humans but on a much faster scale. Thus it had to have been engineered. We did discuss this a while back. I still think Humans and Aliens could be opposite sides of the same card. We get dropped on a rock we devastate the ecosystem (or terraform it depending on environmental needs), work for the jockey's in the process, bring it to the brink and right when the atmosphere begins to tilt the Aliens get dropped off to clean up the biological and the jockey's have a barren freshly terraformed planet. Granted this may take hundreds of thousands of years but if the Jockey's are as old as the stars what is a 100K-200K years and little to no resources out of pocket? Short answer nothing. Regards, Rick