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Hello all again, great replies and great Ideas! @kethol I'm sorry dear I think you are missing the point of the thread, if you want to talk strictly just the title, feel free to but what the rest of us are talking about is possible theorys on how Walter may still be alive, and if any of them have a solid chance of having him actually escape the planet, or even have a small part. 

I should have titled the thread *spoilers* Maybe Walter is in the next movie??? The reason I did NOT do that is a lot of fans know that awakening is a working title, I originaly thought and hoped it would be a prequel, then alot of articles and even some things mentioned by RS said that the next movie (covenant 2 essentially ) may also be titled Awakening.... I think your looking to into it, if you dont like my title and how I speak then I'm sorry, but no skin of my back, i dont know you there for dont mind, but again, you mention "I am just strictly referring to Ridley's comments, not speculating on storylines." but keep in mind, the rest of us are talking storylines, so if it seems we are not understanding you its just that you are talking about something off topic. no worries : ) 

I will wait for UK Blu-ray with Digital Download... although i have never used any with my movies lol

Most remain in the Packaging...  then i get the DVD when cheaper and watch that, Funny as i have all the Alien movies stored on my Cable TV HD when i record them when they was on, Prometheus the same... so my BOX-Sets remain unopened.

But i am just weird like that.. but few friends and brother i buy cool stuff for, regret opening their gifts off me as a £20-50 Presents have over the years turned into £250-700 Investments if never opened LOL

Indeed there are a lot of experiments that David would be Evolving and Cross-Breeding with the Black Goo.

Is it a Chicken?

Its one Mutated Chicken lol would a Mutated Chicken lay Mutated Eggs... Certainly.. its possible... and i guess we have the Chicken or the Egg Question.

As far as that Organism... its a Easter Egg...

One of HR Gigers Early Chest Buster Designs, well it appears to be a homage to the Chicken Buster.

 I do think there are a number of Easter Eggs to the Franchise and Concept works of previous movies and its great they are using some as Davids Experiments.

Once again ATI nice post, at this rate i gonna be Thumbs Up you to over 300 by December... thanks again for some great contributions.

I used to contribute a lot years ago, but nowadays its hard to stay focuses and have the Energy/Concentration Levels anymore.

I think the movie will grow on people the more they see it..

I think a lot of Problems are a large number of fans had certain expectations that lead to disappointment in how their expectations was handled.

These Expectations and Disappointments vary person to person because each person has a different view on what they like about the Franchise, some Prometheus haters, found AC was spoiled by   David and references to Prometheus.. Some Prometheus Fans may have felt the way those parts was handled was a massive let down.

Some Fans are disappointed in the lack of Action, and Queens etc lol

I am sure some Alien Purest would still be upset at David creating the Xenomorph, and the Quick Gestation and Growth Rate and also the New Chest Buster Design.

So i think for a lot of people, they expected the movie to be something it never quite delivered on, as far as their expectations and so maybe we are just expecting the Alien Movie we individually wanted.

I think once we let go of these expectations and watch the movie for what THEY  FOX/RS wanted to show, then i think it maybe wont seem so bad.

Hopefully we may see more Gore in the Home-release, as someone had informed me the Test Screenings include more Gore and more Nudity.

I'm with Daniels. The first thing I would do is establish what the bonus situation is. If there is a clause in the contract, then I would then have to go with Oram. The next step would then be to send down a couple of security guys wearing red shirts.

Excellent Point Moon Girl ;)

I suppose they would have to take it in turns on a Rota... If they was being a bit more cautious they would have sent down a Pilot, Walter and TWO Security

They appeared to be cautious however, but not really enough, they of course was not aware of those Spores, and you can assume when the Crew Members became ill they would not be aware of how this came to be.

Ha ha.. indeed....  they could always ask David to pour the Tea but we know he is not happy at being asked that ;)

Yeah i think we could all work out a more logical way to do things, even as i suggested a answer to why not send Probes down to take care of this Plot Hole or Stupid Decision.

A lot of Movies required poor choices to drive the Plot along. Prometheus was the same, as if their was more procedures followed then we would ultimately not have our movies.

Foolish Errors are needed to allow for people to be killed or a Plot to take place... some movies handle these better than others though.

Alien was a great example, we had Lambert who aired Caution and if she was in charge they would have headed back instead of arrive at where Dallas and Kane decide to have a Trip down that Hole.

This was the same reasons for Orams downfall, he was curious and felt it was in his duty to go and investigate the Signal at its Source, which is exactly what Dallas did too.

A Clever moment is the whole ASH opening the Door to let Kane on board, this was a DUMB Movie which is why Ripley was really pissed about it and Lambert pissed at Ripley because she was going to leave them outside.

But the Genius of this what would be Dumb Idea... is the reveal that Ash was a Robot with a Objective, and so letting Kane back was nothing to do with trying to help, but purely Ash getting the Organism back on the Ship.

Sadly not every movie is wrote as well.

Those definitely look like the same shape and saze as a chicken, or goose egg. Interesting if that's where the eggs originated from, a mutated chicken like creature lol.

I will expand upon the last post, by saying these Beings look more closer to Humans, but this is for another Topic... but we see there are Females, even David Studied Females.

Now if we have to be scientific here, and these are Humanoids and we came from them or our Genetic Origins are connected.

These beings have not yet long evolved for Millions of years past the need to Procreate, because they would have not needed some of the Anatomy, not only being there are Females, but they have Breasts and Nipples....

This logical means they either Need, or if not so far ago in terms of Evolution they needed to Procreate like Humans. This means Babies, and Children and means Breast Feeding.

Davids Lab has Human Baby Skulls... it was a interesting Question to ask where did he get these?  Was he able to make Shaw Pregnant, Gift her Child Birth, did he use Engineer Seed or somehow he could have allowed her to give Birth like the Virgin Mary? Who knows...

But the other way these Baby Skulls could come into play if they are not just from Long Dead Baby Engineers, is indeed if there was Baby and Child Engineers, with these there is the potential for David to Experiment

In Prometheus the closest we saw to a Xenomorph, was via the Trilobite Face Huger which required Shaws Female Anatomy to Produce.

Looking at Most Cultures and the Ethical/Courageous thing to do in any Conflict or Disaster is... PROTECT the Woman and Children, these are the Future of the Species.

If WW3 broke out and certain ruling Leaders and Business men decided to protect themselves and only ONE Bunker Survived and this was filled with 95% Wealthy Men and the rest of the World was decimated... where do we Populate from?

Woman and Children would be the first ones to Protect and in many Disasters and Wars, its the Right Ethical thing and unselfish thing to Protect the Women and Children

And so if a number of Engineers escaped to the Cathedral and it Provided Protection from the Fall Out of the Bombardment, but then Food/Water was in short Supply... The Logical thing to do is ENSURE the Woman and Children are looked after, they are the greater Importance for their Kinds Survival until Help arrives.

And so if the Engineers are such a honorable Race, who see Sacrifice for the greater of their kind, they would (Males) Sacrifice Food and Drink so they Woman and Children Survive.

Now once Food and Water Runs dry, if i am right about this, the last to survive would be Woman and Children and so if there are survivors by the time the Fall Out has gone away then a Majority could be Woman and Children who may be weak due to Rations of Food and Drink...

This would be easy picking for David, and Woman and Children would offer David a lot for his Experiments and Agenda... and this is the best Logical Theory i can give to how David obtained more Fresh Corpses.

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Some interesting Questions....

Firstly the movie has left it pretty open, but indeed those Engineer Burnt like Corpses do not look good enough to be able to make as good sketches on their Anatomy as David has, or his experiments.  There are Humanoid Baby Skulls on his desk, there are previous Neomorph Organisms he has dissected and experimented on... we have to ask where do these come from?

And so maybe indeed there are fresher Corpses or Hosts to be used, which does raise a Question as we see how the Engineer in Prometheus dealt so easy with David.   Physically David can not match those Engineers.

But David is many times stronger than a Human, but despite this he is a Mechanical Being, with Synthetic Material, Cables, Tubes and Skin and so only a Certain amount of Force would be required to pull his head off....  So we can Assume Walter could Pull Davids Head off, maybe it needed more effort than the Engineer did.

But also those Engineers are maybe purposely Engineered/Evolved Larger Solider or similar Class. Those beings on Paradise/Planet 4 appear to have varied heights and builds and not all of them are such Genetic Specimens as the Sacrificial and LV-223 Engineers.

But your point is valid, how does David overpower or be able to use Fresh, Alive Engineers?  First we have to ask where are they from?

Can we assume the City's whole Population came out to see the Juggernaught? We can clearly see many were near and inside the Cathedral Building

We see here on the steps to the Cathedral and outside the Doors are about 15 Engineers, and many more are gathered between these steps and the Courtyard, and these have appeared to notice a Ship in the sky and are not part of the group who have moved towards the center of the Courtyard, this group in this image then notice the Bombardment and they attempt to run to the Cathedral.

Latter shots we can see the Cathedral had locked down and Engineers had tried to get inside.

This building is Large, its the Center Point of the City and of great importance and looked like it had some Technology above it, the Gold like Devices.  And so we can maybe assume this place PROVIDED SANCTUARY from the effects of the Bombardment....

We know the Engineers are Genetically connected to Humans, and so its very likely they require Nourishment like we do in the form of Food and Water.

So the logical theory i can come up with is some Engineers managed to hold themselves up inside this Building like a group of people entering a Under Ground Bunker from Protection from a Nuclear Attack.

However as this Cathedral was likely not a Place of Rest/House to the Engineers, they likely lived within the City and the Cathedral was thus just like a Church/Temple/Mosque etc would be to us.. So while this place maybe could offer Sanctuary from the Effects of the Black Goo... if this Place did not have enough Food and Drink Provisions for a long period of stay, and if outside is a Infected Area.

Then over time these beings would be starved, and when a Humanoid has been starved of Food and Water they become weak.

And then i think they was ripe for the pickings..

Also David could maybe had made a Covenant with some of them, he could use the Black Goo as a bargaining tool

But i would assume David and Shaw held up in the Juggernaught, while Engineers held up in the Cathedral and David is free to wonder around eventually Malnutrition is what lead to those Engineers all dying but a few, that David could then more easily have his way with.

The problem with sending Walter is if Walter gets killed, who's going to pilot the Covenant to Origae-6 over the 7 year trip? In the actually story, the awake crew took a lot of risk sending their only AI.

@Kethol

you are right, I misinterpreted David's notes! All this work made by experts who worked for Ridley and nothing put into the film!

Somewhere in this forum I don't remember exactly I read that David told that the engineers did not come up with binary logic and that it was strange for an advanced civilization.

@George-TheGreek

I can see what you mean, there are things that are not clear in the movies and the Storms indeed seem to Block Communications, but we had Storms on LV-223 too.  Maybe not connected?  But i can come back to this, as i had a Source who claimed to have knowledge of Prometheus 2 who hinted at some Technology the Engineers had.

Anyway i think a thing to consider is the Bombardment Scene the Boom... appears to be the Sound made by the Juggernaught as it enters the atmosphere, well within the atmosphere and its most like a sound made as the ship leaves what ever kind of Advanced Propulsion it uses and enters normal Speed.. a Bit like in Star Trek Leaving Warp to then drop to impulse speeds.

We dont know the exact time frame of the event from when the Ship came out of High Speed Entry and then slowly headed towards the City, it appears like less than a minute, but the movie is not running or showing us a exact Second for Second Clock of Events, for example it took more than Minutes to get from the Lander to the Juggernaught for the Covenant Crew.

However looking at the size of the Courtyard which is fair large, and where those Engineers were coming from, its not exactly a quick walk and so do we assume they all happened to be in that courtyard by coincidence to just be in the right place at the right time so just as Davids Ship arrives which was unannounced or detected, these beings had already been in the center or near it of the Courtyard?

It appears David makes a quick entrance, flies over the mountains and approaches the City, and when we see the clip of his Juggernaught arrive at the city, the Hanger is already opening.

So i would assume again, the Juggernaught either Automatically or by Davids command had sent a signal to tell the Hanger to Open... but why if David planed to Bomb them?

Or something on Planet 4 detected the Ship and prepared the Hanger, this giving enough time so those Engineers knew something was arriving and so they began to head to the Hanger.

I can then only assume the Docking ship either by Protocol, Automatically intercepts the Ships prior to docking, or it was sent to intercept for some purpose... again we cant be 100% sure of what the exact Process was...

I will only assume at some point they detected Davids Arrival and prepared the Hanger, then there must be some kind of Air traffic control (ATC) device where they may try and contact the Pilot of the Ship.... which if they then get no reply would surely mean they would send the Docking Ship out to investigate.

As far as the Signals... again if they are Man Made, they are done using Engineer Technology, i cant see how if the Engineers Ships have NO Way to Transmit communications, how David manages to do so.  I doubt Davids Build in Communications would allow for such a Signal and so i think he used Engineer Transmission Technology.

But as its never completely shown the process of how this is done, it still can be debated that they dont have no communications Technology... which i find hard to believe.

Lilly (Svanya) - Yes, yes, thank you, that's why I wrote that 'The David’s Lab teaser provided by Lilly probably shows moments of the Advent video'.

Their content descriptions are similar:

Advent: See David's experiments through his eyes and dive deeper into Shaw's fate and the nature of the mysterious black ooze.

Teaser: Go inside David's Lab and unlock the secrets of the Alien Universe. See the full video on the Alien: Covenant Digital HD & Blu-ray.

Now On Digital HD https://bitly.com/alien-covenant-digi...
On Blu-ray & DVD August 15 https://bitly.com/alien-covenant-amazon

PRODUCT DETAILS

Disc 1: Theatrical Feature Blu-ray **Audio Commentary by Director Ridley Scott **Deleted and Extended Scenes **Master Class: Ridley Scott **Production Gallery **David's Illustrations **InWorld Featurettes: Advent and Phobos

@Kethol

Indeed your reply to my One Goo comment is exactly what i was getting at, it appears maybe there is ONE Source Goo/Substance that can be manipulated and programed to perform various outcomes.  Where was Spaights Draft and Prometheus seemed to back up, was potentially there is this Creation Tool (Sacrificial Goo) that can be used to obtain Genetic Code from a Organism and Store this Code to be passed onto other Organisms.... The Urns containing this Substance that had already acquired a Genetic Code from something that has Xeno related DNA.. which is why i was always drawn to the Mural being something they exposed to the Sacrificial Goo to obtain the resulting Black Goo.

It was ambiguous and appeared we have TWO Goos because of TWO Effects, when i was drawn to ONE Substance that breaks down and Stored Genetic Code of a Host... this resulted in a modified Goo that can then infect other Hosts passing on Traits from the Host Sacrificed via the Sacrificial Goo.

The way they are going now can still fit with this, as we do-not know what effect the components of the Urns have or how they can be altered.   Maybe the Goo can be altered and programed via some Stage/Technology and then Loaded into the Urns.. Or maybe the Urns can be Re-coded by the Ships.

It still has not been clearly shown to us and so its not really possible to make a Water-tight theory or explanation.  One Analogy i had was to explain maybe like a Nuke the Urns have components where the Substance within the Glass ampoules is like the Radioactive Elements of a Nuke (Plutonium/Uranium) thus exposed contact to these has a serve effect on a Organism, even causing Mutations to Molecules.  But in no way do these Chemicals actually explode or cause as serve Burns as a Activated and Dropped Nuke.

So the Urns could act the same and when they are Primed and Dropped they in effect act like Bombs and Explode where the effects are different compared to just coming into contact with Stored Radioactive Material of a Nuke or in the case of the Urns the Black Goo and its effects in Prometheus.

And AC as far as Davids Experiments and the after effects on Life on Paradise (not inc the Engineers caught within the Blast Radius)

@Ati; Just to clarify, the David's Lab video I posted is only a teaser and will be on the Blu-Ray in full. It says so right on the 20th Century Fox YouTube.

The problem is Covenant was released before Awakenings, which has led to a lot of confusion and missing context. I guess they rushed release of the third chapter to show the Xeno? 

I am just strictly referring to Ridley's comments, not speculating on storylines.

Based on it being repeated in several threads here as fact, including the title of this thread, it seems people now think Awakening is the title or working title of the Covenant sequel. I was just pointing out Ridley never said that was the title of the next film. No one from Fox has either. The only working title Ridley has given for Covenant 2 was literally "Covenant 2".

@Kethol

If i have time i will try and find the references, again however i can see your Point as far as coming directly from RS Mouth as quoted in a interview, where indeed he said something along the lines to hint Awakening was placed before Alien Covenant, as indeed you Quoted the comment in Question.

And he did-not mention Alien Awakening, but we have to safely assume the next movies will all contain the Prefix Alien:

The comment i made was saying, indeed this could be a working Title, and also indeed i also said while it was placed between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, in latter interviews regarding the Sequel, well next movie that it would follow directly after Alien Covenant and so we wont get a movie that sits between Prometheus and Alien Covenant and the next movies will fit between Alien Covenant and Alien.

However and i will not say this with 100% i will have to look at where this cropped up so maybe it never came directly from the Horses Mouth.  But i am sure but not 100% as sometimes with what appears to be good knowledge of the Franchise as SM used to have, i sometimes have doubts put in my head when you pick upon stuff and then i question my memory lol (always good to debate with people with such a in-depth knowledge or attention to detail however).

But i recall it being mentioned as Alien Awakening at least once more, but also it was mentioned that Alien Awakening was the Name of Blomkamps Alien 5 movie in the one piece of information out there... again i am trying to think if the source was from RS or not.

But i think regardless, it certainly appears the plans are to not take on any Side Plots or Past Plots, but to show us as far as the next 1-2 movies a series of events that chronologically run from the end of Alien Covenant... so 2104 ==> 2122 so the events of these movies will sit within that Time Line, they may have Flash Backs but for the most parts its a Direct Route towards Alien.

I will also add as far as the Engineers goes RS comment does allude to the Fact we will see the Engineers arrive and at some point will no doubt come into play and interact with David and his Experiments.

However again and often with RS, his comments may sometimes lead us off the track a little.... while he claimed that David is off to that Planet (Assume Origae-6) he said there will be 3-4 other players in the next movie.

One of which will be the Engineers, after they arrive to find Planet 4 decimated.

This however does not mean Engineers vs David, the next movie could show these 3-4 Players as Chess Pieces that will be shown making their move.  And so it could be shown the Engineers Discover what happened on Planet 4 and then that they are off to find the Culprit.....

So it does not have to mean they find David etc in the next movie, it could be that this set the Engineers up for a confrontation in the movie after the next one.

If this Plot that is to show How David Evolves those TWO Face Huggers into Thousands of Eggs, and Engineers are a eventual incoming party along with 2-3 others... and the aftermath of this will lead to the Derelict in Alien.

If this is a TWO Part Story then these Elements can be introduced slowly, if most of this will however be covered in the next movie i feel, with trying to cover so much. Maybe we only see the Engineers Arrive.

And so the way we find out they found out about what David had done would be them telling David, or indeed maybe What if they Bring Walter with them.

Its all pretty open at the moment, will we see Walter or not and how much of a role can he play or not...

I will Assume TWO Things now..

1) Logically it would be via Walter the Engineers are aware of the location of Origae-6 and David who had unleashed hell on their brothers and sisters, is off to this place with the Covenant Crew.

2) That the Covenant contains Walter Spare Parts and David rebuilds at very least himself a New Hand, as i cant see Fassbender playing a One Handed Android all movie.

@ Starlogger - If it wasn't, then isn't it a "deleted scene"?"

Hence the title of this thread :)

BigDave - Thanks, you are right, I'm not talking about an end of credits scene, it's an independent one.

'So this Video is maybe kind of like to Alien Awakening as the Crossing was to Alien Covenant.'

Yes, so it can serve as an epilogue to Covenant.

"I think the whole thing is ambiguous due to the lack of clues, to correct this FOX/RS have attempted to give explanation
and show various clues, all of which seem to change over and over and would kind of not add up to previous comments/clues."

Exactly. You couldn't have said it better. Very few clues in Prometheus, so then you have to come up with a lot of exposition that now sounds like a lot of hocus pocus.

I will add as far the Deacon being exactly a Neomorph as this not being the case, they are Evolution resulting from what ever the Black Goo Contained.

The Neomorph is spread via the motes given off by those Spores and they enter a Host and then i would assume merge together and start to use the Hosts DNA to take on traits to itself to then grow into the Neomorph.

The Action of the Motes could be similar as the Purpose of what ever the Embryo Implantation Stage of a Face Hugger and Trilobite does.

We can Safely Assume a Human Born Deacon would appear very similar just different in Height.   We can also assume a Neomorph from a Engineer would Produce something very similar but again Larger.

Here is what a Face Huger that was similar to the Xenomorphs (but maybe a bit different)  would produce when infecting a LV-223 Engineer.

Clearly is similar to the Xenomorph, but then they also had a few other concepts for the ULTRAMORPH which include the next one

Sorry for low resolution i will see if i can replace latter with better.

Clearly the last one design is very similar to the Neomorph, to the point of being at least 80% the same, however in Jon Spaights Alien: Engineers the Ultramorph is described as Armoured and so fits the first concept more.

I think the point i was making is that as the Engineers are Genetically related to us, the results would be the same, well very very close and a main difference would be the Height.

This was based on the idea the Engineers were Larger than Humans.

There is a connection that is for sure, and its all a tad confusing due to the changes in clues that are given yet the Original Idea was more simple. But i wont go into much detail as i covered this in a reply earlier today.

Basically those Urns however do contain a Substance, that has a effect on Organic Life and Matter, One Series of Events from interaction with this Substance resulted in the Trilobite.

The Trilobites function indeed is the same as the Face Huger, they are related in that sense... the resulting Organism from the Trilobite was the Deacon, that indeed had a connection with the Mural Organism in Prometheus.

The Deacon however did not look too close to the Xenomorph, it was more Humanoid looking which i put down to being as it was born from a Human/Black Goo (Xeno-virus) Hybrid Face Huger.

The Neomorph indeed is similar to the Deacon, it is more flesh colored but it has a similar Head and Mouth and the Neomorph actually looked like it was more connected to Human DNA than the Deacon... It also had a Tail.

The Neomorph again is a Organism that came from the Black Goo so as the Black Goo seemed to contain some Genetic Parasite or Mutagen that contained Xeno-Related DNA or indeed Programs Genetic Material to take on Xeno-Related DNA

We have yet to have a real explanation for the Spores, but its indicated these had infected some Life on Paradise/Planet 4 and David saw and studied the results of this and he experimented upon them and also some Black Goo with various Organic Life and Matter in a attempt to experiment and create the Perfect Organism.

The Spores are seen in the movie at the edge of Running Water, the Juggernaught with its Cargo Bay open had crashed into the Mountain over what appears to be a stream of water that runs from the Top of this Mountain down to the River.

The open Cargo bay had acted like a scoup and scooped up some of the ground inside, and we can see Algae/Moss or other Plant Life had started to grow inside the Ships Cargo bay, and the Water from the Mountain is seen running under and near the Cargo Bay Entrance and this Plant Matter, and among this are the Spores that Hallet has inhaled.

Prior to this we see that Ledwood was located at the side of the River which the water running down from the Mountain would have ended up in... and by the side again we have Spores.

So its logical that at the side of this stream, we have algae, moss and other Vegetation and growing from the soil/vegetation was likely some kind of Fungus.

Fungus are not Technically Plants, they are Organic and so we can safely assume some Fungi/Spore like Organism had been infected with the Black Goo as it entered the Water from the Cargo Hold and Evolved the Fungi/Spores into what we see in Alien Covenant.

This is just how i saw it though and its not to say this is correct.

I think it will raise some Questions, and again as with a number of things related to the Franchise these accounts by David seem to not 100% be accurate with what clues the movie shows.

But then we can never be sure if David in his Narration to the viewer is telling Lies and not being honest.  I will maybe comment further if i can see the Video.

I think its easy to misinterpret what ATI was saying.

This is not a extra Scene at the End of Alien Covenant as far as End Credits, what this seems to be is some like Diary of Events by David... with David simply Narrating something he did after the Last Scene in Alien Covenant.

So its just how the Crossing Prologue was not part of the Movie but it was David informing the viewers of some of the Events that happened after Prometheus and as they arrived on Paradise/Planet 4

And this new Video is David doing the same thing but this time telling the viewer what he had done after he had placed the crew in Cryo-sleep, and so David also recalls some things about Dr Shaw too.

So this Video is maybe kind of like to Alien Awakening as the Crossing was to Alien Covenant.

I have not came across or seen it yet but this is what i appears to be and i think ATI meant it as such, but the way they put it down could read like it was a End of Credits Scene.

Which as far as i am aware it was not... i only sat down to all the Credits Once at the Box Office and so NO extra Scene, the other TWO times which is at the same Cinema Chain i did not sit though the credits but i cant see them being any different.

Ridley has said the next one being written will be about the colony on Origai 6 evolving and forming a new world, the colony disintegrating, religion, and the Engineers arriving back to planet 4 from Covenant to find it decimated. Hopefully we will get more background on the Engineers and the next stage of David's evolution.

@Amunet - "I would have to google it for you but there is a online interview where ridley confirms that the Engineers return and then inturn decide to find David."

Sorry, but what does that have to do with the title of the next movie? Ridley only mentioned the name Awakening when he stated the order of the movies. He said Awakening between Prometheus and Covenant, implying that name was for a prequel. The next film is a sequel, not a prequel, and it has never been named in any interview, other than Ridley saying "Let's call it Prometheus 2".

Also, Ridley said the Engineers arrive to find their planet decimated in that interview. He never said they decide to find David. His only mention of David regarding the sequel in any interview was to say David was going off to tend to the colony.

"But wait a minute, if there uninfected Engineers how did David capture?"

We don't know. There is a whole movie there that we did not get to see.

Lilly (Svanya) - Thank you!

Ingeniero - Ha, thanks for that cameo, but I think it's time to move on. Nowadays I'm fascinated by Olga Kurylenko and Theo James, I'd like to see their bodyparts in the next Alien movie:

These images are astounding, could not get this from movie. The advent video helps explain a lot and makes his lab make so much more sense. David in general makes more sense and I  think clarifies him creating vs recreating. I think it's  much clearer for me that he's experimenting with ancient tech, exploring ancient human civilizations, and generally losing his mind. I feel like we're getting a parallel story that explains some or most of the origins while mainly being about this AI dilemma and the beginnings of corporate/weyland yutani direction, then will eventually all fit together nicely. The next movie does seem set up to tie things together, what I mean is that I think they will explore davids inspiration, the Engineers and their wolves....

And also learn Babylonian as to no freak the Engineers out and rip off his head...yeah nice.

Can someone upload or PM a link? I kind of dont want to buy the Digital HD version for just one scene 

But wait a minute, if there uninfected Engineers how did David capture? How did they not physically overpower him as seen in Prometheus? Or was the theme of the "mad scientist" more important than cohesion of the story?

Yet another another question. In the Meet Walter viral, there is a disclaimer that if you can't pay your synth you forfeit the rights to your dna. Now does this imply that Synth are partially organic also ? .... 

How? Where would he have gotten them from, considering you're disregarding the 15-20 minute gap that RS said existed. According to your logic, it was only 30 seconds.

Maybe he won't need waking up. Maybe he will have awakened himself, but is just as stranded as David was?

So, was this scene in the original theatrical release at the end of the credits? If it wasn't, then isn't it a "deleted scene"?

But how will they wake up/repair Walter? Wasn't it said that the engineer did not know binary logic? By the power of retcon? The only thing there with robotics maintenance know how is an eviscerated body.