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Otto
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 6:36 PMAnyone else bothered a bit by this rather redundant line uttered by Kane??
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Biehn_Bandit
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 6:40 PMHow about "We have to go on. We must go on!"
Dude likes to repeat himself I guess

Not_my_intention
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 7:13 PM...........................................................................................[i]James Cameron[/i]

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 7:13 PMThe term organic is of, relating to, or derived from living organisms.....Life may exist outside of our understanding.....As Ripleys-Knickers said....there's synthetic life in that universe....organic as we understand it refers a living thing....well, artificial life is living.....isn't it? why does that then not fall under the term organic? the word Organic, despite its literal definition has a conotation trapped within the confines of earth bound biology and human knowledge of that biology.
What I'm getting at is that Kane states what is apparently stating the obvious, but, given their circumstances, the alien, biomechanical nature of the derelict, the SpaceJockey and everything else they've seen, it isn't necessarily so obvious........

Otto
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 7:20 PMcraig, you may be on to something. By the time the "Alien/Prometheus" universe appears, "life" may be recognized within Androids---and seems to obviously be so in Ash, etc...---and the like. So the script writing is excusable here, for sure. Good job.

aintnozeno
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 7:35 PMIt's fair to call any life that does not occur naturally "synthetic". We already make genetically altered crops, bacteria that exist soley because we create it, and even cloned animals. All can be considered synthetic.
Organic only means that it occurs naturally. Maybe I'm wrong, but so be it.

centrosphere
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 8:02 PMActually, the word "organic" have originated from the latin "organon", that means "instrument". The meaning is something that have order. That´s why the instrument "organ" is called...organ.
But later hte meaning changed to identify things that are alive.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 8:03 PMI get what what you are saying aintnozeno....what I'm getting at is the literal defiintion of organic....of, relating to, or derived from living organisms....That does not specify natural, which is particularly interesting considering the context of the SJ's apparent biological fixations of various kinds.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 8:04 PMThank you centrosphere....that's even more interesting....

Dave_b
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 8:06 PMaintnozeno is closest to the truth....naturally occuring equates with "organic life". However, once "Androids", for lack of a better non-anthropomorphic term, begin re-producing themselves....well, the definitions will naturally (or should I say unnaturally) change! I must have Kane's disease...I used the word naturally twice:O)

Eibenholz
MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 9:34 AMExcuse me, but if the German word "organisch" has the same meaning as organic, it just says that the life he´s talking about is based on chemical bonds with carbon. It has nothing to do with being alive or natural, that´s the old meaning from the time before we were able to synthesize acetic acid.
Infidel753
MemberOvomorphMar-27-2012 2:15 PMThere was a lot of that kind of odd repetition or redundancy in the dialog. People tend to babble when nervous.
The first time I saw it, it actually sounded like he was saying "It appears to have light.....organic light." At that moment the egg looks like it's glowing from within, and you can see the facehugger twitching inside it.

Otto
MemberOvomorphMar-28-2012 6:42 PMDanke, Eibenholz, aber:
Es macht nicht...
because we are talking about the fact that you can have "organic" without life, but you cannot have "life" (in OUR sense of the word in our civilization) without BEING organic...

Macs
MemberOvomorphMar-29-2012 6:56 PM@jasonlee
-From Wikipedia:
"Life (cf. biota) is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have signaling and self-sustaining processes (i.e., living organisms) from those that do not,[1][2] either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate."
-I remember from many moons ago, a chemistry teacher telling us of the possibility of finding silicon-based life instead of carbon-based on other planets, since both elements are so chemically similar.
Found this on Wikipedia:
-"Hypothetical silicon-based lifeforms are the subject of silicon biochemistry, in analogy with carbon-based lifeforms. Silicon, being below carbon in the periodic table, is thought to have similar enough properties that would make silicon-based life possible, but much different from life as we know it."
-Life does not necessarily need to be organic. And although we have not seen any other case yet, who knows... That is why we must redouble our efforts to stop wasting time in quarreling and focus on a single objective of getting our arses out of this planet and start exploring the universe. This might also increase our chances of survival as a species and as a living organisms (unless we find a set of alien jerks like the ones in Prometheus movie of course ;) )...
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