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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

Androids can not feel safe in space anymore.

Researchers have found bacterium and worms which consume plastic-based materials.

If a variant of the alien substance have a good appetite for plastic, then androids will have a very hard time. Large percentage of their body is made of plastic.

These bacterium can damage other equipments, and insulation materials as well. Damaged insulation shorts electric circuits which leads to fire. 

 

 

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BigDaveAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

Interesting Find Ingeniero

I still have not got around to getting the Book, and i had not came across this page or comments by Hatton.

My Topic i did last week Star Children

I was speculating to what lengths Genetic Engineering could take and also in context to what David could do with those Human Embryos where i also pondered that he would create Humanoids with maybe Elongated Heads so that Larger Brains could be used, and maybe Brains that have extra Organ Capacity such as Telepathy etc.

So its interesting that this was something David may have been trying to implement with Engineer Children.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

@123Engineer

I think its very plausible regarding the Xenomorphs Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic arriving from some kind of Synthetic Input, to cater for the Amalgamation of Biological and None-Biological Construction.

Especially when looking at  the route that Alien Covenant had taken.  We had discussed this before on here regarding the WALTER-MORPH and at this time prior to the release of the Movie, some of us speculated if this would be the route to the Xenomorph, this in part was because of Walter being considered a Doppelganger to David so he is NOT the same, but looks the same..  The Viral Marketing seemed to imply the Walter Model was constructed different to the David Models from the Prometheus Viral Campaign (however the Prometheus Marketing could be NULL and not cannon any more). 

Alien Covenant seemed to imply Walter was Superior to David in every way apart from NOT being able to Think for himself/be free.  The Walter Marketing did seem to show that Walter could be PARTIALLY Organic.

Thus a Synthetic Construct like Eldon from the Fire and Stone Series, whom could be INFECTED with the Black Goo, so we could wonder what if a Synthetic Construct was infected by a Face Hugger?

Could the Black Goo be programed to infect NONE Organic Matter?  Maybe they could go this route now its some kind of Radical AI, but certainly if we are introduced to Synthetics that are Part-Organic then that surely opens the Door to these being a avenue for Horrific Bio-Mechanical Constructs.

@NTFS

Certainly is a avenue to explore, we have to Question if LV-223 is the ONLY place these Engineers had the Black Goo, and where the stuff Originates from.  Then are LV-223, and now Planet 4 the only places this stuff has infected?

We dont quite know what becomes of Origae-6, this surely would be what a Alien Covenant sequel would explore or would have done.

So its quite open to Multiple Worlds that could have remnants of the Black Goo, be that its Origin, other Storage Facilities, or Crashed Juggernaught ships, or even just some Urns/Canisters that FAILED to go off.

Thats as far as places that could contain the Substance... we could also have other Worlds that have Mutated Life from the Effects of the Black Goo, not only in the form of Xenomorph like Monsters, but also like the Spores that brought about the Neomorphs.

The Source i had regarding Prometheus 2 claimed the Black Goo Originated from a Obelisk like structure, that was neither Rock/Metal and was Black in Color, and was Growing from the Ground (had Roots) and it Glowed Green.

It was supposed to represent the Prometheus Fire and Forbidden Fruit, and worked as the Tree of Life and Knowledge.  From this Obelisk like Structure the Black Goo could be Extracted.

The Green Crystal in Prometheus was a Shard/Peace of this Obelisk that was STOLEN by the Engineers.

Without any acknowledgement by those working on the Project or Ridley Scott, or any of the Paglen/Green Drafts coming to light, then i cant say of this is TRUE at all.

However if we looked at this as where the Black Goo Originates then something like that would be interesting, if say these Obelisks are located on other worlds and what happens when some Human Explorers come across this and attempt to take samples of the Obelisk?

There was a lot of doubts to the Claims about this Obelisk/Tree of Life when i was passed on this information.

But looking at Ridley Scotts Seven Worlds Hennessy XO Advert

The opening Scene does show some Humanoids in a Cave, that Chisel away at rock, that then seeps out a Honey Like/Gold Goo Substance.  But this could just be pure Coincidence and NOT being RS showing some ideas he had for the Prequels in this Advert.

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IngenieroAlien: Covenant ForumThe Seven Worlds - Directed by Ridley Scott

That is a great interpretation Thoughts_Dreams.

The short film evolves through each world and your Infinite Echo interpretation, to me, nails the concept of Prometheus Engineers. 

But...

"Who created them?"

Excellent, thank you.

 

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IngenieroAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

"O'Bannons Idea for the Starbeast (Xenomorph) prior to going with HR Giger, and also that O'Bannons Design is NOT too far off the Prometheus Fresco, to some degree."

Excellent comparison graphic BigDave.

There seems to be similarities in detail for sure in comparison. David's "Wolf" screen flash is compared below and both seem to resemble the Starbeast.

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

Dave, I like what you have written very much.

 

"Unlimited number of Hybrids/Mutations from the Black Goo" - This is what the studio wants.

 

"McGuffin, Allow for it to basically do what ever they want it to do, to suit what ever plans they have without having to give a Complex or Coherent Scientific take on it"  -  This is ideal for a franchise

 

"And we assume the Black Goo just passes on Xenomorph like DNA to any Organism it infects, then indeed we could have Xeno-Hybrid Sharks, Dogs, and Insects etc..."  -  Any organism can be morphed into an alien-ish creature.  Unlimited number of monsters. This is what the studio wants.

 

"Toxic Parasitic Plant-Life" - Plants can be very invasive species. This is ideal material for a longer television series.

 

Tera-forming/Colonization - Ideal subject for a movie or longer television series.

 

This is how I imagine a colonization story

1. The colonists arrive to a nice and friendly planet. This beautiful planet will be their new home.

2. They start to colonize the planet enthusiastically. Small towns, farms, plantations, workshops and outposts are under construction. Everything is awesome.

3. Disagreement arises among the people and/or androids. Someone unleashes an alien substance into the nature accidentally or deliberately.

4. The alien substance starts to transform every living organism (both animals and plants) on the planet gradually. The colonist ignore the warning signs at the beginning, because they have a "we can overcome this" mentality. (Wir schaffen das!) They experience more and more hardships, accidents and fatalities. The situation escalates into a serious crisis.

5. The conditions deteriorate to such an extent that they must abandon the planet and they need to evacuate it hastily. 

6. The hopes and dreams of the colonists are crushed and  their cherished home is lost. The planet has become uninhabitable for humans forever. The survivors must find another place to live.

This is a skeleton of a story. Add more conflicts, actions, horror, and drama to it and you will get a two-hour-long movie or a two-season television series. 

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IngenieroAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

This is wonderful.

If Grant Niesner is producing a Xenomorph bust then we may have reason to be very exited.

Here are other works by Niesner, below, from The Matrix.

Film work detail:

So, a 3D Concept Designer that worked on the Matrix trilogy is producing this, below.

This Xenomorph above does looks like a transition from the Planet 4 (in December 2104) example to what was seen on LV-426 in June 2122. The xenomorph below BigDave certainly has some differences from the beast above.

David's notes example, below, from Matt Hatton.

David's experiments with expanding the brainpan sure seem to fit with the variations seen above in the Xenomorph 3D concepts from Grant Niesner. I could not think of a better resume for someone to work on the Alien franchise. This could be soil-your-pants exciting.

 

 

 

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123EngineerAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

If Im right, then it was said that the black goo can olny transform living biological organisms. Consequentually, If the black goo which is a radical form of AI, develops itself then it might transform non-biological forms as well, like David is. Could this mix of David and the black goo lead finally to the biomechanical design as we‘ve seen it in the first Alien? 

At some point they have to go there, because we haven‘t seen that true gigeresque design in the prequel series. The chamber with the big head in Prometheus was just mechanical but similar to that Alien design. In Covenant, we were introduced to the biological design through Davids creations. I refer to the protomorph because it looked organif and not biomechanical. Will we finally see an evolution in the design?

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumHeeeeeeeeeeeeres Ozymandias!

What better way to be more human like than to make mistakes and be wrong about things from time to time? Is it bad programming or by design? 

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HWMurphy84Alien: Covenant ForumHeeeeeeeeeeeeres Ozymandias!

David is above trivia because it’s trivial u can theorize he purposely answered the question wrong because it’s something a great deal a even humans may answer... they are sizing each other up as in chess and David just scarified an unorthodox play to win the rest of there battles .... Walter acts rather HUBRIS after that from there on out ironically the moral of the sonnet 

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

We have discussed this push for a long time- seeing what some Indies can come up with to advance the franchise. It looks very healthy and has tons of potential- I look forward to see where this goes!

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

Looking at the Descriptions, they all seem to follow a similar Formula, that will no doubt deal with something all too similar to our Xenomorph.

I had a number of ideas that were different (3 was) 2 was more Alien Fair... but then i could not take part in the Competition from my Location... and my Ideas would NEVER had fitted into a SHORT anyway LOL

One Idea actually covered the Arcturian's and reasons for that Pootang! Party! and it was basically not for the Benefit of those thinking they would be having a Great Time... much like NO Doubt the Frequent Visitors to TITTY TWISTERS were not expecting LOL

Also uncovered a Conspiracy Plot between Weyland-Yutani and the Arcturian's with a small indication loosely of the Engineers Past Involvement.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

It is odd these wont all be released on Alien Day... maybe something else is planned?  But i would not get expectations raised.

Thes Shorts look interesting... the ORE one looks a bit like the Star of Ridley Scott's Hennessy Commercial LOL

some of the Shots do look like what we could have expected from a Alien Covenant 2 if they followed one path i had explained a long while back (David experiments, they get out of control, he Quarantines a Area of the Ship) maybe he DIES! and then the Covenant arrives at Origae-6 and the other Sections of the Ship/Cryo-Pods  are activated to open and the First Wave of Colonist go and explore, and override the Quarantine to enter that Section... WHICH they soon REGRET.

I offered this as a alternative sequel that would maybe please Fans who wanted a more ALIENY Movie... and have David play a Small Role.  

Such a Plot is something that i would NOT have ruled out, if FOX continued with Alien Covenant but decided to Change the Direction that Ridley Scott wanted to go.  I remember when i proposed something like this someone on here said thats like the Plot to  Pandorum which i never came across so i checked it out a few months afterAnd so yeah a Pandorum Type Sequel to Covenant would indeed have similar scenes to some of those Shorts we saw in this Teaser!

If these Teasers Get a Good Reaction, maybe Disney would consider doing a Short Live Action Series? Say Total of 3-4 Hours. Split into 4-6 parts.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

But going back to what you said about all those various Life-Forms... then even if we IGNORE what i wrote prior.

And we assume the Black Goo just passes on Xenomorph like DNA to any Organism it infects, then indeed we could have Xeno-Hybrid  Sharks, Dogs, and Insects etc...  some of this had been explored with the Fire and Stone Comics.

But i think the Black Goo had more scope than that, in that it could take on/off traits of one Organism and Store these and Pass them onto another Target... so it could say Consume Traits of a Wolf, and then Replicate into a Substance that passes those Wolf Traits onto other Life-Forms, thus if it infected a Human we would get say a Werewolf.

Regarding the Plants... again it would be interesting and again Fire and Stone seemed to indicate this... but with Alien Covenant it was revealed it would ONLY infect Organic Material as in MEAT... and not plants... this does not mean it would not infect Fungi/Mold as they are Technically not Plants.

This would be ideal for a Bio-Weapon to Wipe the Slate Clean, but does mean limited to seeing Monstrous Alien Carnivorous or Toxic Parasitic Plant-Life.  However indeed in the Concept work for the Earlier Draft to Alien Covenant (Paradise Lost) it showed Alien Plant-Life and so seeing such Alien Plants could be open to be explored in future, and maybe also as a result of the Black Goo.

Especially if its Radical AI nature means it can be Programed to EFFECT Plants or IGNORE Plant Matter.

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Onto the various images of Space Stations and Tera-forming/Colonization, indeed this was a LARGE part of the Franchise, and opens up various kinds of Plots/Movies to explore that DONT revolve around the Black Goo or Xenomorphs or indeed revolve around such things.

Such as discovery of a dead like World... that they Terra-form but then discover some deadly left over Organism or remnants of the Black Goo, such as discover a Unexplored Black Goo Canister.

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"The studio can produce large number of Alien tragedies as long as they create a meaningful story around this mystical even mythical creature."

The Athlete Wrestling with a Python Statue could be used in regards to Serpents in a number of ways, not restricted to say Norse Mythos of Thor and the Jörmungandr (Midgard World Serpent)

But we could also look at the Serpent Bearer Constellation Connection (Ophiuchus) which in some Mythos is where the KEY to Immortality Lies, and also the Seat of the Gods.

Its where a Source i had who claimed to have knowledge of a much earlier Prometheus 2 Draft, said that the Engineers Home-world, well where David and Dr Shaw were heading to as far as Constellation

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

Indeed NTFS we could see a unlimited number of Hybrids/Mutations from the Black Goo.  A lot is still up for debate about the Substance.  Prometheus/Alien Engineers set us down a certain path to what it was capable, but Alien Covenant introduced a hint the Substance could be Programed to have different effects.

This in part is to make it a bit of a McGuffin, and allow for it to basically do what ever they want it to do, to suit what ever plans they have without having to give a Complex or Coherent Scientific take on it.

So while trying to simplify this, because doing a Total Genome Map would be lots off Data.... lets assume (which it is not) that a Human Genome and DNA is made up and converted to a Pattern, looking at this Pattern we may not look much different to say a APE...  But there are sections of CODE that are different that make us Human, then that breaks into sections of Code that Determine many aspects of a Human, Eye Color, Hair Color Ethnicity etc.

So with Genetic Engineering you could look at the CODE that would say make a Person have Blue Eyes and Change that to Brown....    

Now what if the Black Goo can be Programed to Target that Specific Data, well those who have that specific Trait.. so say Blue Eyes so that it only effects Organisms with this CODE then lets assume it can be Programed then to Hybrid the Whole Genome of a Target with the Blue Eyes CODE and Imprint on that Genetic Changes to Hybridize that Target with any desired effect of the Black Goo.

So only Blue Eyed People would be infected say like Fifield was... or you could Program it to Target Blue Eyed CODE Humans, and have those effected by Delete the Genomes that Give Sight... Thus making Blue Eyed Humans Blind.

Or have it so the Black Goo simply Target those Humans and Render all their Genetic Makeup into some Solid Calcified Structure... like we saw with the DEAD ENGINEERS bodys.

I am not saying this is HOW the Goo works... but that if it was some kind of Radical AI, that can have a unique effect on every Genome, then maybe it can be Programed to Specifically Target Organisms with a Certain Genome Code, and then apply a certain effect onto them.

The Radical AI revelation thus allows this to be more than a Creation Tool, if it can Target Specific Genomes, maybe when its given a Genome CODE to attack... it Does-Not effect other Organic Matter that does-not have this specific Targeted Code?

Such a concept for the Radical AI would allow them to explain away every EFFECT we see with the Black Goo, and not have to Question WHY those Engineers had not suffered the same effects as we saw in Prometheus..

So what i am saying is if we look at our Entire Genetic Make-up and Traits as a Massive CODE... and the Black Goo is a Tool to Reprogram that Code in many ways, then it really makes the Black Goo be able to do what ever the Studio Want when they contemplate how it will effect LIFE in future movies.

So looking at it like that, the Black Goo could be programed to have say TWO different effects on the TWO Sexes of a Species.. so it would affect a MALE in one way and FEMALE in another.

The Radical AI this allowing them to be LAZY as to allowing this Substance/Tool to do what ever they want... but in doing it also opens up its USE as UNLIMITED.

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

The alien pathogene is capable to infect plants and it is able

transform the vegetation of the colonized planet. The infected vegetation dries out or it becomes extremely poisonous and the planet become uninhabitable.

 

Enter the Deadliest Garden in the World

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123EngineerAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

I thought they would release it on Alien Day. If they already upload it in March, what will be left? Is there going to be a bigger anouncement for April 26th?

By the way, the trailer looks good. 

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

You're welcome, dk.

I won't be able to watch these shorts until June, I hope to read your comments here until then.

I am most curious about Alien Harvest.

And of course I still hope to get bigger news on Alien Day. Let this be the Alien Year.

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum'Alien' Celebrating 40th Anniversary With 6 Short Films

Thanks- this looks like it could be really good!

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

new crew/ team with every film


e.g. marines, colonists, truckers, prisoners,

infected planets, teraforming colonies, research centers, observation outposts, security outposts, logistic stations, large space stations, , asteroid stations, abandoned stations, ghost ships, junkyards, dockyards, mining stations, plantations, ancient ruins. 

 

 

 Mobile auto turret for security

Mounted auto turret for protecting doors and hallways.

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

Any animal can go through an alien metamorphosis. 

 

 

 

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

Alien franchise can present a (xeno)-morphed version of every living organism known today.

Dangerous insects

Amphibians

 

Reptiles

Fish

 

Predatory animals

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NTFSAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

It is important to specify the Genre of this franchise, because it provides a framework for the upcoming episodes.

The genre of the first Alien film was Science fiction (1) + Horror (2) + Drama (3). It was an interesting B movie.

Cameron's Alien was Science fiction (1) + Action (2) + Horror (3). People remember of this film as a good action movie.

The genre of the first Alien Versus Predator was Science Fiction (1) + Action (2) + Adventure (3). This film was a good adventure movie.

The Genre of Prometheus was Science Fiction (1) + Drama (2) + Action (3). The action parts incorporated limited amount horror. This film was a tragedy.

Alien Covenant was a Science Fiction (1) + Drama (2) + Action (3) film as well. The film makers have put slightly more emphasize on the horror.

Perhaps it is wise to continue with the direction of Prometheus and Covenant storyline and define franchise as a science fiction drama(tragedy) with action elements

If the film makers emphasize horror too much, they will reduce Alien films into B movies. 

If the film makers over-emphasize the action and neglect the drama, Alien films will be lost among the vast number of other action movies and the franchise will not have a long future.

Here is a definition of tragedy: A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances. Tragedy is a play, film, television program, or other narrative work that portrays or depicts calamitous events and has an unhappy but meaningful ending. 

The studio can produce large number of Alien tragedies as long as they create a meaningful story around this mystical even mythical creature.

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BigDaveAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

The item seems like its just a Fan Made Sculpt by someone called Grant Niesner who does some concept work, but it appears this Xenomorph was just a Fan Effort and NOT for any actual Project they was hired for.

Here is their Website http://gniesner.com/

Here is another Xenomorph in Progress.

The Quality of the Finished Sculpt in the OT is very high Quality certainly Good Enough to be Commissioned as far as actually being Good enough for Movie Work.

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BigDaveAlien: Romulus 2 NewsFox tease exciting new expansion for Alien franchise in 2019!

Who knows...  the thing with IMDB is it should not always be considered Official, and more so i dont think Neill Blomkamps Alien 5 was ever Officially Press Released by FOX as going ahead.

Although it appears some work had been done behind the scenes to the Project which appeared to be Labeled Red Harvest with Carlos Huante making some concepts, however it had been reported their was NEVER any actual Script but only a 10 Page Dossier about the Plot and Elements that would be seen.  But then a few people had claimed they read Blomkamps Draft, which Cameron Claimed he had read.... yet Ridley Scott claimed there was NEVER no drafts.

The most likely reason for the Removal is simply that NO-PROJECT exists anymore, but it appears James Cameron is trying to drum up support for Blomkamps Canned Alien Project so time will tell.

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dkAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

It is a nice piece for sure. IMO, it actually rivals the original concept of bio-mechanical. Ultimately, I don't see the point though. "Concept" for what exactly?

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ChrisAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

I actually thought of the original Predator suit design when I saw this as well!

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BeaujinxAlien: Romulus 2 NewsFox tease exciting new expansion for Alien franchise in 2019!

Does anyone know when and/or why the "Neill Blomkamp Alien Movie" page was dropped on IMDb?  'Cause it's gone NOW.

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BigDaveAlien: Romulus 2 NewsEarly Alien: Covenant script kept Elizabeth Shaw alive and part of the story

I think NOT having the Bombardment Scene would have caused some ambiguity to what happened to those Engineers, i am sure the Dead Engineers were PART of the Drafts that Harper/Logan worked on...  The Bombardment Scene was to show us HOW this happened... would it have been needed? For some maybe not!  As some hints or direct acknowledgement by David in regards to he caused their deaths would have sufficed.

I think a number of people are upset we never saw much from Dr Shaw, she would have been the Anchor Point and our Proxy to what she would have discovered... her Character was Flawed.... but as Noomi had mentioned, she felt that they could have done some interesting things with her Character, giving some indication that she would have liked to had brought changes to her.

For a Naive Scientist in Denial of her Discovery, Clutching at Straws to her FAITH.  They kind of Discovery she could have made when she arrived to meet her MAKERS could have Crushed her Faith.... and Broken Her... this could have led to a Interesting Arc in her Character... you could ponder such a Revelation could cause her to want to PULL THE TRIGGER on these False Gods.

But ALAS!

As i had mentioned in this Topic, and a few times before Alien Covenant came out, or the Trailers.. Dr Shaw has NOTHING!...... apart from her FAITH and a Quest for some Answers... ONCE she gets Answers that are Much Further from the Truth she felt her Faith Showed... then she truly has NOTHING!

I felt this is WHEN we could have had David suggest that he could discover a way so that Dr Shaw could Conceive Humanoid Off-Spring so THEY can then make a New Paradise of the Hell they Discovered.... this in Part is one of the routes i was going to expand on Prometheus sequels.  I feel this would have been a Interesting Idea to follow on, after David Unleashes Hell on these False Gods!

Regarding that Apocalyptic Poster..

I felt it proved to be a Red Herring... it was a Marketing Ploy that was used to Hook Fans in.... and well we saw NOTHING like it in the Movie!

We have to Ponder WHY did they create this?  Was it purely to LURE the fans in... but this was not needed as the Trailers and other Posters basically showed the Fans they was going to get EGGS, FACE HUGGERS and the BIG BOY (Xenomorph).

You could speculate is this something that happened in the Past?  But then is it not indicated the Xenomorph was not around until David created it.

Is it something that could happen in Future?  But then its indicated there are NO-MORE of the Engineers on Planet 4... but thats not to say this kind of Apocalyptic Scene could not happen to other Engineers in the Galaxy.

It certainly does-not represent what happened after the Bombardment of the Engineers.   Maybe some Engineers went into Hiding, and David Unleashed a Horde of Xenomorphs upon them?

ULTIMATELY it was maybe there just for the sake of being COOL.... and so just ending up being Misleading like maybe the Prometheus Fresco's and Murals were too.

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SuperAlienAlien: Romulus 2 NewsEarly Alien: Covenant script kept Elizabeth Shaw alive and part of the story

ignorantGuy the Daily Mail article ends like this:

"Fassbender has never commented publicly on Andrews' claims, but his mother Adele told the Daily Mail at the time: 'Anyone who knows Michael at all knows that it’s a complete fabrication.'  

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BigDaveAlien: Romulus 2 NewsGiger inspired Alien concept bust gives Xenomorph a fresh look

I am sure i have came across this Bust before....

Its a interesting take on the Xenomorph, especially how different the Face/Jaw Area looks...

To me i think its a interesting design that i feel with some alterations could give us something different, i think i posted this before when discussing the STARBEAST or if not then it must have been one  of the Many Topics i planned to Start but never got around to doing.

Some Elements of this BUST do have a slight look of the Original Predator to it from some Angles, the Original Predator Design does have a MILD Xenomorph look to it, the Muscle Structure and Legs are NOT too far away from the ALIEN COVENANT version of the Xenomorph.

I felt a while back when i maybe discussed this before, that the Original Predator Suit reminded me in part a little of Dan O'Bannons Idea for the Starbeast (Xenomorph) prior to going with HR Giger, and also that O'Bannons Design is NOT too far off the Prometheus Fresco, to some degree.

The Studio (FOX) have used unused concepts and ideas before, and i think a AMALGAMATION of the Predator Suit, O'Bannon's Starbeast, Prometheus Fresco with that Hybrid Bust in this Topic.... would certainly give us a NEW Monster to be explored in the Franchise...

Maybe even if used in a AVP Cross-Over to Provide some Missing Link?

Any such Creature that combined those Images i posted above, i would LOVE to see on Screen..

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ignorantGuyAlien: Romulus 2 NewsEarly Alien: Covenant script kept Elizabeth Shaw alive and part of the story

@Lone but what did that scene actually provide from a narrative p.o.v? Wasn't it merely awe inducing? If Fox would have been smart they would have reduce the budget by quite a bunch by not filming that scene.

Well all I know is that Rs is foremost a business man so he probably never though to quite. But I wonder, if he removed an actor because of rape charges, the resurgence in 2018 of Fassbender's 2010 domestic abuse would entail for his Alien avatar (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5392861/Michael-Fassbender-domestic-abuse-claims-resurface.html). I don't think that Disney will like to commit to this mess.

Maybe they did not kill off the right character (but they are such great business men).  

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LoneAlien: Romulus 2 NewsEarly Alien: Covenant script kept Elizabeth Shaw alive and part of the story

@ignorantGuy Fair enough, but I always felt that Ridley did have a concrete plan, both for Prometheus & then Covenant, but he had to buckle down to the powers that be.

Granted that's not good, but he tried to fight to keep some things in. For example, the studio wanted to completely scrap the Engineer bombing sequence, Ridley fought for what remains of the scene.

Also, I feel The Crossing was originally intended to be included too, but again the only way Ridley managed to hold onto it was via additional marketing.

Plus, remember that beautiful renaissance styled poster with the Engineers & Aliens entwined? How did that come about as opposed to the Run, Hide etc egg posters? It pointed to a  different story. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an absolute shed load of filmed footage which is lying around in some storage room which backs that up!

It's easy for us to say that he caved, but what would anyone do under those pressures, when your options are either do what the studio wants or walk away entirely from what you put so much effort into. 

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dkAlien: Romulus 2 NewsEarly Alien: Covenant script kept Elizabeth Shaw alive and part of the story

 I am of the opinion the prologue footage of Shaw and David should have been in the actual movie.

Agreed. Additionally, all of the teasers would have made the movie much better imo.

I slagged Shaw for Prometheus but flipped after seeing the prologue. If only...

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumTraits of the franchise

I think despite the Future of the Movies being in LIMBO...

Disney know they can make money from other avenues, and so i expect to see Comics and Novels as well as Games continuing to come out, just as we have had in the Past/Present.   Even Franchise Cross-Overs (AVP).

There is a lot you can expand upon with the Franchise, but i do feel any Books, Comics and Games would CENTER around the Xenomorph.... as i feel that Disney would feel this is the ASPECT that makes Money $$$$ .... but also Ripley Connections too.

I would not expect the Engineers to be used to much effect as far as Background, they would likely be shown much like the PREDATORS have been... where its not so much about their History etc... but to show they are Superior, Stronger and go around KILLING Crap!  Using their Technology!

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