Petition !!!!

I am all for it. If its not R.. Its going straight to PC download. I wont support this money hungry ideology. Fuck them! This has a chance of being one of, if not the best sci fi films and they are going to ruin it by having everyone see it the first time in the wrong light.

Too bad we can't create voting polls in this forum.Here's my own little incredibly biased poll. I vote for A. Obviously the tone of the answers is biased and I realize B, C & D are completely unfair, haha. [b]X A.)[/b] Prometheus deserves the same opportunities that the R-rating provided Alien. And I hope it's not that crappy looking CGI blood. B.) Prometheus deserves the same opportunities that the R-rating provided Alien, but the Chestburster scene would make no difference to me if it were CGI. Practical effects are dated. C.) I don't care what it's rated, movie kills are movie kills even if the human bodies have even less blood than Bishop. D.) C.) I prefer bloodless violence, the Chestburster ruins Alien for me, I just skip past that scene.

"...but don't short change the storyline..." Is there any indication that this is even happening? Usually the MPAA concerns themselves with how many f-bombs, boobs and scenes of gore are in a given movie. They don't meddle with the plots of the movies they rate. Focus groups and meddling producers are the ones that are notorious for altering plots to make things more "accessible" to audiences... and I've yet to hear anything about that in regards to Prometheus.

Alien is based on horror and gore and all of the lovely stuff.. Nuff said.

What @juston said.

I dunno, there's remarkably little gore in alien apart from the overlong (I said it) chestburster scene. And I don't think the MPAA ever says, "take out a few seconds of horror and we'll give you a PG-13." They tend to concern themselves with gore rather than horror/terror/other abstract concepts. Also, am I the only human being who enjoyed Alien as a science fiction movie first and a horror movie second? I kinda feel like I am on this forum at least.

Thanks, allinamberclad. I'm not alone!

[quote]IF THEY "take out a few seconds of horror/gore and we'll give you a PG-13."[/quote] for years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING AND DOING !!! THAT IS EXCATLY WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT MEANS ABOUT THEM.

Alien is a 15 in the UK now, which is pretty much the equivalent of PG13 in the states. I didn't think R ratings were that well respected, you'd have to do some real grimy torture porn to get it. Alien has never been about pure shock value and gore.

I think all of the comments have valid points my reason for wanting it to be rated R is from a pacing standpoint. i am not sure what you all think but all pg 13 movies have different pacing and overtunes than their R rated counterparts and i do believe that blood and gore and violence adds to the thick and meat of the story there is no need to be user friendly here. Give it to us how the screenwriter and director envisioned it!!!! i completely understand that the rating committee has a responsiblity and all but lets not posture on that and lose the creativity of this potential masterpiece in theater!!!!! R rating please

"Quote: IF THEY "take out a few seconds of horror/gore and we'll give you a PG-13."" Hmmmm... who are you quoting there, Spartacus? Certainly not me since that's not what I said. ;) I also notice you divorced that slightly altered quote from the context where I clearly said the MPAA concerns itself with the amount of gore, nudity and profanity in movies, not in meddling with their plot or anything so abstract and subjective as their mood. If you really like gore and want it in all its uncut glory in Prometheus, just say that. I can't fault you for your opinion even if I don't necessarily agree with it. What I'm disagreeing with you on is your mischaracterization of what the MPAA is and what it can do. Exact quote: "THAT IS EXCATLY WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT MEANS ABOUT THEM." Might I trouble you for a source on that? From what I've read he hasn't been anywhere near as explicit about his problem with the MPAA as what you said would lead us to believe.

"Quote: IF THEY "take out a few seconds of horror/gore and we'll give you a PG-13."" Who are you quoting there, Spartacus? Certainly not me since that's not what I said. ;) I also notice that you divorced that slightly altered quote from its context where I explicitly stated that the MPAA concerns itself with the amount of gore, nudity and profanity in a movie, not it's plot and certainly not something as abstract and subjective as its tone. "THAT IS EXCATLY WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT MEANS ABOUT THEM." Could I trouble you for a source on that? Everything I've read from him pertaining to the MPAA has been vague at best. How is it you're so sure he's in complete concordance with you on this matter? I'm not trying to mess with you, I'm just urging temperance and a more nuanced view of the situation (two things that are generally in short supply on the internet). We all have to deal with the same limited, vague and, at times, conflicting information about this movie. I'm just trying to avoid whipping myself or anyone else into a needless frenzy over it.

not sure if fox has done proper marketing research on this, but I fall into the if its PG-13 I'll wait many weeks to see it in the theaters and I'll the read reviews, if the reviews are so so, more for teenage minds, AVP geared etc, I'll wait to see it, if I ever see it in the theaters at, eventually I might watch it on a different format and won't spend more than $5 (US) on it. Not sure if fox or anyone cares, but there could be millions more in this marketing group.

I agree with @juston once more - furthermore the point about enjoying Alien as Science Fiction, inasmuch as it was Horror, is interesting to me. I'm really struggling with what I'm picking up as a general feeling that, somehow, anything less than an R will mean that we will all have been short-changed - and that it will also devalue the film to the point where it's not even worth seeing in a theater?! I just can't bring myself to agree with that position. I [i]do[/i] accept that cuts must have to modify the impact of certain scenes - but can I determine, in advance, by [i]how much[/i] - and, further, whether that is a margin significant [i]enough[/i] to [u]completely devalue the film?[/u] This seems a very strange position to take - for me, anyhow. Based only on what I know so far, I am determined to go to a theater, see, and support, what is looking like a damn good Science Fiction film. I am expecting a Horror component. I know there will be one. At the moment, that is enough for me because at the moment I really doubt that, at any point, I will be taken out of the movie because a fountain of blood was shown for 1/60th or 1/50th second less than intended and I feel patronised. I might only notice, or [i]care[/i], when I pick up the "R" DVD, months later. Just how I'm looking at it.

I agree with @juston once more - furthermore the point about enjoying Alien as Science Fiction, inasmuch as it was Horror, is interesting to me. I'm really struggling with what I'm picking up as a general feeling that, somehow, anything less than an R will mean that we will all have been short-changed - and that it will also devalue the film to the point where it's not even worth seeing in a theater?! I just can't bring myself to agree with that position. I [i]do[/i] accept that cuts must have to modify the impact of certain scenes - but can I determine, in advance, by [i]how much[/i] - and, further, whether that is a margin significant [i]enough[/i] to [u]completely devalue the film?[/u] This seems a very strange position to take - for me, anyhow. Based only on what I know so far, I am determined to go to a theater, see, and support, what is looking like a damn good Science Fiction film. I am expecting a Horror component. I know there will be one. At the moment, that is enough for me because at the moment I really doubt that, at any point, I will be taken out of the movie because a fountain of blood was shown for 1/60th or 1/50th second less than intended and I feel patronised. I might only notice, or [i]care[/i], when I pick up the "R" DVD, months later. Just how I'm looking at it.

Well said. The happy birthday David video has given me great confidence that this is going to be an intelligent and challenging film full of fantastic performances, regardless of how much/little gore is in it. I can't imagine why anyone would wish to boycott such a film just because it isn't R-rated. It beggars belief. PS: Enceladus_is_alive makes a good point though. It's no sin to wait for reviews. If more people did, movies like Transformers and other cash-grab crapfests would never have made enough money to spawn sequels.

Movie execs monitor this site? Uh huh. News flash incoming: They do not give a shit what you think the rating should be. They will release the cut that is most likely to have the largest box office success possible and then eventually release the cut bits on a home video release. And you know what? They are right to do that because you will buy it. Film is not art. Film is business.

Alien was all about what you were afraid to see (aka, wanted to see) but didn't....it's called leaving some things up to your imagination. Laying it all out there never keeps you thinking and coming back. A scantily clad woman is always more intrigueing than a completely disrobed one....that's right, I said "scantily clad" and used "disrobed" in order to get a PG-13 rating:O)