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Making a Sequel, Jetlagged Edition

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wey-out-there

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 4:43 AM
Hello. As I am only 1/10 a human now due to extensive travel, I will make the introduction short and sweet: Things I would like to see in Prometheus 2 (aka Paradise, aka something else probably...) 1. Make it Mean: Now that we have our film about discovery and faith (Prometheus) now we need to be kicked in the teeth. With a steel toe boot. Repeatedly. We need to have that faith burned and seared and stripped so even those who adhere to the themes of Prometheus aren't likely to survive. 2. A Constant Threat is Necessary: In Prometheus, the ship was home base. You were pretty much safe there until the end, unless a certain sleeping old man had a certain android to something to you. We need to see some Engineer bio-weaponry in action...more than worms and a mutated geologist. No where can be safe. People have to be able to be killed in places the audience least expects. A safe place is necessary for plot, but don't let anyone know where it is... 3. The Deacon: There are so many possibilities for the Deacon. It could be a great cinema monster. Its second jaw is wonderfully sinister. Its shape is exceptionally strange. If it adheres to the logic of this franchise, its a fast, unmerciful monstrosity. But does it necessarily kill? I read the second jaw was inspired by the goblin shark, which could unhinge its jaw to hold prey in place. So maybe, the jaw is only step one... 4. Curveball!: Throw more than one curve, but don't fall in love with it. What?! The Deacon is killed off before the middle of the second act?! But hey, that set up the even nastier...oh, that is how that happened! Wow... (Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that happen?) 5. Explore Unpleasant but Necessary Themes: Sexuality in Space? Been there. Faith? Done that. What to bring in case of close encouters? Check. Some of these themes need to be explored more, but lets add to them, really get our hands in the muck and explore the mind, the soul, the psychology of humanity. If done correctly, the audience will squirm just as much at some of the humans as they will at the Xenomorph. 6. This is a case of Darker is Better: Shaw will come back, but lets say what she finds or doesn't find is more disturbing to her than what happened on LV-223. The new characters will naturally die, but don't miss out on great opportunities for horror (the Hammerpede, anyone? Fifield's rampage?) Avoid glorifying torture, but don't hesitate to make Alien 3 look like Mary Poppins. 7. I might make another list, but as I am jetlagged and I probably look just like you feel, I will post this one about halfway finished: BE BRAVE. BE SMART. So, what does that mean? It means this: If you create a great story, if you have a great ending, if your characters and monsters and Engineers and beef jerkey are amazing but someone says "Hey, but the fans want this!" tell him to shut up. Try things, be bold, think of truly horrifying scenarios to explore important and dark themes, and if they fit the story, use them. Don't think "Oh, this is too much," or "Hey, this might be bad, we shouldn't use it," do it anyway. Unless you veer into territory that is intentionally gratuitous or the film becomes an insult to humanity, it's ok to challenge the audience. So challenge them. Make them think. A bit of true horror comes from a little bit of knowledge, then not knowing where that knowledge can take you. ENGAGE THE AUDIENCE. (If you have to study a ton of psychology to do this, hit the books.)
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David 1

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 8:18 AM
1. "We need to have that faith burned and seared and stripped so even those who adhere to the themes of Prometheus aren't likely to survive" contradicts: 5. "Faith? Done that." and also: "Some of these themes need to be explored more" 4. "Throw more than one curve" was actually the bad thing about Prometheus. Oddities Gallore. 6. "great opportunities for horror (the Hammerpede, anyone? Fifield's rampage?)"; that's not horros is just... dumb. Have a good rest BTW. You will need it.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Xenotron

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 9:53 AM
For the sequel, David had the best advice: "Try harder."

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerAug-30-2012 9:59 AM
Bring back howard the duck to star in part 2 :P ! :D

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 12:28 PM
Wey-out-there: NOW look what you've done. These guys.. they're  gonna GET ya.      Dear Guys (or Girls such as the case may be): I have a feeling the sequel may be even less to your taste. I hope I'm wrong, but not for my sake. I like the above list a lot better than the SFX one, jet lag or no. Counter to his hyperbolic claim that " I wonder what the hell I'd do for a sequel.." I think RS has a clear vision and it will be hellish. But in what way? Personally I can't imagine how one would achieve the singularly bizarre aesthetic vision of Prometheus without trying really REALLY hard. Maybe in fact they tried too hard. Certainly their experiment is turning on them.

Necronom 4

MemberNeomorphAug-30-2012 12:28 PM
The sequel could be a perfect opportunity for Ridley to showcase his TRUE visual genius, with huge, terrifying, awe inspiring environments! He's the only filmmaker, in my opinion, who could do an amazing job of taking us back to the raw roots of the Alien universe, where it all really began and bringing Gigers horrifying landscapes from the necronomicon to life! I want to see mutations, new monsters, more engineers, sexual horror, torture and some connection to the original Space jockey and cargo of eggs. That would be a real nightmare of a Film and i think it's what the lifelong fans of Alien, really expect to see. But, i doubt, very much that will happen! We will probably have to settle for not much more than a "teenagers wet dream, pop corn flik". Which is a real shame! Giger Giger Giger!!! If you say that repeatedly and fast, it sounds like that pervert from family guy lol

The poster was good though!

 

Sky

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 1:11 PM
I think RS is done for... prometheus is an example of it. If he makes dark movie which is 99.9999% not possible, then box office will be double and FOX don't even need to do the marketing with single big trailer.
Uncertainty is the only certainty there is, and knowing how to live with insecurity is the only security.

Cyberdeath

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 1:19 PM
Yeah! good ideas!

Sentinel

MemberOvomorphAug-30-2012 11:15 PM
Shaw is going to become the Zerg Queen.

Vyemm

MemberOvomorphSep-01-2012 5:30 AM
@ wey-out-there : I doubt that RS is planning to make an horror film the way you want it, but who knows ! For sure it will be a real SF movie, with other planet(s), cultures, strong events, but i don't think the danger or horror will come from an horrible xeno (even a mouse).
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